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To: plain talk

I have shared the teaching of the Catholic Faith which was passed down by Jesus, the Apostles and their successors for 2000 years.

As surveys have shown not all Catholics fully believe in the true presence of Christ in the Eucharist. Perhaps they were not fully catechized early in life or have been misled by the world.

As Catholics, we accept the mysteries of God by Faith that we obtain through grace of the sacraments and belief in the God’s Word.

For your sake, I hope you seek and understand God’s Truth. Consider some of the writings of the early church fathers.


23 posted on 10/02/2023 1:47:07 PM PDT by ADSUM ( )
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To: ADSUM

I do seek to understand Christ’s teachings as best as I can given our limitations. Peace.


31 posted on 10/02/2023 2:43:37 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: ADSUM

THIER IS SALVATION ONLY IN JESUS’S NAME, NO CHURCH, OR INTERMEDERARY.


33 posted on 10/02/2023 2:53:09 PM PDT by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING OF AMERICA! DEATH TO MARXISM AND GLOBALISM! Trump 2024, NO more Mr Nice)
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To: ADSUM
Perhaps they were not fully catechized early in life or have been misled by the world.

Or have a functional, logical brain in their head.

68 posted on 10/02/2023 11:04:21 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ADSUM
I have shared the teaching of the Catholic Faith which was passed down by Jesus, the Apostles and their successors for 2000 years.

Another begging the question fallacious assertion. It remains that distinctive Catholic teachings are not manifest in the only wholly God-inspired, substantive, authoritative record of what the NT church believed (which is Scripture, in particular Acts through Revelation, which best shows how the NT church understood the gospels)

Thus ultimately requiring reliance on oral tradition and the novel and unScriptural premise of ensured perpetual magisterial veracity, which itself appeals to the former, under which then tradition and history can only authoritatively assuredly mean what she says, if she says so herself. Thus RC teaching is supposed to be the supreme law, under the premise that it cannot contradict Scripture, according to her.

85 posted on 10/03/2023 7:55:54 AM PDT by daniel1212 (As a damned+destitute sinner turn 2 the Lord Jesus who saves souls on His acct + b baptized 2 obey H)
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To: ADSUM; plain talk
I have shared the teaching of the Catholic Faith which was passed down by Jesus, the Apostles and their successors for 2000 years.

You mean like some teachings that "developed" over time such as Transubstantiation which didn't even get formally defined until the Fourth Lateran Council in 1215? Neither Jesus nor the Apostles passed that down.

Just because your religion claims to be the same faith as Jesus established, doesn't mean it's true nor does it give them carte blanch to subordinate the Scriptures to their Traditions and demand all of Christendom accept them or be condemned.

You want to believe you have to literally eat the flesh and drink the blood of Jesus over and over to gain salvation, go ahead. Just don't expect that other Christians must also think as you do. When I partake of the Lord's Supper with fellow believers, I am confirming my faith that Jesus died for my sins - His body was broken and His precious blood was spilled out as THE atonement for my sins and the sins of the world. By eating the bread and drinking the juice of the grape, I do show the Lord's death until He comes again to receive us unto Himself. I do so in remembrance of Him. I don't have to imagine the bread turns into His REAL body and blood - it is spiritual. I know I have eternal life through faith in Christ because of the grace of Almighty God. Do you?

117 posted on 10/04/2023 3:04:49 PM PDT by boatbums (When you dwell in the shelter of the Most High, you will rest in the shadow of the Almighty. )
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