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To: Cronos
1. I quoted from Ambrose’s 1:23 — are you referring to the same book?

I specifically looked at what you quoted. I didn't go out finding some other early church father quote (today, not talking about posts in prior days).

2. 1 Cor 2 is not about personal interpretation but about belief

The only reason I explored interpreting 1 Cor 2 as possibly being about wisdom available to everyone (as you put it, "personal interpretation") is because of a reverence to exegetical interpretation. It means to interpret the Bible without bias.

So I was trying to read 1 Cor 2 (don't blame me for going to 1 Cor 2, you quoted it first LOL) not as a Protestant, nor a Catholic, nor a 21st century American, but from what Paul meant. In political lingo, call it an "originalist" interpretation. One way to do that is to look at all the possibilities it could mean (I listed 3) and see which one(s) is the most plausible. Bonus points if when analyzing those verses I look for interpretation based on more of the 1st Corinthians text itself (less chance of taking something out of context if I'm comparing 1st Corinthians text to other 1st Corinthians text instead of comparing it to other parts of the Bible).

Next sub-topic, I'm probably misunderstanding one of your statements. You said:

"2.2 - It talks clearly about our beliefs, not about interpreting differently from what Christ taught His apostles and was handed down from them."

To which I say, I agree. The 1 Cor 2 text is NOT saying to interpret differently from Christ's and the apostles' teachings. Christ's and the apostles' teachings should be the see-all do-all. Which makes it sound like you're leaning toward a sola scriptura position. Except that you immediately followed it with:

To use that to allow for sola scriptura is nonsensical.

So clearly I'm having trouble following what you're saying.

439 posted on 09/14/2023 8:46:09 AM PDT by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: Tell It Right

You referred to Ambrose first in post #34 “ (Ambr. Offic., 1:23).”

Which work of Ambrose are you referring to?


444 posted on 09/14/2023 10:12:38 AM PDT by Cronos (I identify as an ambulance, my pronounces are wee/woo)
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To: Tell It Right

“Christ’s and the apostles’ teachings should be the see-all do-all. Which makes it sound like you’re leaning toward a sola scriptura position.”

Actually Christ’s teachings are not all contained in the Bible - John 21:25 “Jesus did many other things as well. If every one of them were written down, I suppose that even the whole world would not have room for the books that would be written”

Sola scriptura i.e. scripture alone goes against what the biblical books themselves teach


446 posted on 09/14/2023 10:15:39 AM PDT by Cronos (I identify as an ambulance, my pronounces are wee/woo)
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