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[Catholic Caucus] In new interview, Fernandez says Bible teaching on homosexuality should not be taken too literally, otherwise women might have to wear veils
Rorate Caeli ^ | July 15, 2023 | Peter Kwasniewski

Posted on 07/15/2023 8:24:01 AM PDT by ebb tide

[Catholic Caucus] In new interview, Fernandez says Bible teaching on homosexuality should not be taken too literally, otherwise women might have to wear veils

The following interview with Archbishop Víctor Manuel Fernández appeared today in Spanish at catolin.com, under journalist Ale Villegas (source).

Ale Villegas: How does one promote the faith in a West that is increasingly indifferent to religion?

Archbp. Fernández: It is a relative indifference, because new forms of religiosity and spirituality are always emerging. At a given moment, when one feels the suffocation of superficiality, the question of religion comes up again. That is the moment when, if we are attentive, we can engage in a fruitful dialogue.

Does the world still feel the need to hear words of hope about pain, death, eternal life, and is the Church still capable of addressing these questions, once defined as the "ultimate" ones?

Today everything is immediate, urgent, so it is difficult for a proposal of eternal life to emerge. However, in the face of pain, death, failure, abandonment, many are beginning to look at the broader horizon of existence. It is part of our message and we cannot fail to speak of the call to a full and endless life in the abyss of divine love. Sometimes this message is ignored, but in other circumstances it is heard.

Does a deeper understanding of doctrine also mean overcoming homosexuality as 'objectively disordered', a definition in the Catechism that continues to hurt those who live in an unchosen sexual condition and also their families?

This is a problem of theological language, which sometimes ignores the effect it can have on people's hearts, as if it were indifferent to the pain it produces. But, as you know, this is not the case with Pope Francis, who would certainly use different language.

Blessing homosexual couples is a sacrilege for traditionalist circles. Do they quote the Bible with full knowledge of the facts?

There are biblical texts that should not be interpreted in a 'material' way, I don't want to say 'literal'. The Church has long understood the need for a hermeneutic that interprets them in their historical context. This does not mean that they lose their content, but that they should not be taken completely literally. Otherwise, we would have to obey St. Paul's command for women to cover their heads, for example.

And what do you feel like saying to Catholics disappointed by the stagnation of reflection on women's access to the diaconate, even if it is permanent, despite a couple of ad hoc commissions set up by the Pope?

I say that it will not do us any good to analyze this problem in isolation. What lies behind it and is much deeper is the discourse on power in the Church and women's access to places where there is decision-making power. That is why it is important that women begin to vote in the Synod.

Does the possible ordination of married men, defended by a large majority in the Synod on Amazonia, undermine doctrine or is it a possible hypothesis for the Church?

It is a possible hypothesis, as in fact happens in the East. But it is a prudential decision that the Pope must weigh.

What do you expect from the October Synod of Bishops?

Unlike other Synods, where I expected very concrete answers, in this case I prefer to wait and see where the Spirit wants to lead us.

Have you been marked by the invectives, also on a personal level, that have been addressed to you from traditionalist circles?

I expected them, but they are not what worries me most. There are other areas in which operations are carried out to damage the image of people, when they do not respond to their ideological and economic interests. In these cases, the social message of Francis bothers. They are not precisely traditionalist sectors.


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Moral Issues; Theology
KEYWORDS: apostatepope; cdf; frankenchurch; sexualpredator; tucho; victorfernandez

1 posted on 07/15/2023 8:24:01 AM PDT by ebb tide
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To: Al Hitan; Fedora; irishjuggler; Jaded; kalee; markomalley; miele man; Mrs. Don-o; ...

Ping


2 posted on 07/15/2023 8:24:34 AM PDT by ebb tide (The pope ... said the church's “catechesis on sex is still in diapers.”)
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To: ebb tide

Heresy!


3 posted on 07/15/2023 8:24:41 AM PDT by No name given (Anonymous is who you’ll know me as)
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To: ebb tide
"The analysis was the most difficult of the three by all odds. When Holk, after two days of steady work, succeeded in eliminating meaningless statements, vague gibberish, useless qualifications - in short, all the goo and dribble - he found he had nothing left. Everything cancelled out.

Lord Dorwin, gentlemen, in five days of discussion didn't say one damned thing, and said it so you never noticed."

Isaac Asimov- Foundation

4 posted on 07/15/2023 8:34:54 AM PDT by rmichaelj (Ave Maria gratia plena, Dominus tecum.)
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To: ebb tide

Are we to take Paul’s sayings on minor matters with the same weight as always and forever scripture statements, from old testament days to new testament days concerning sex? I think the speaker is focused on the hole, not the donut, focused on the wrong “context”.


5 posted on 07/15/2023 8:35:17 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: ebb tide

“...new forms of religiosity and spirituality are always emerging.”

Pure Modernism. The guardian of doctrine is a modernist. Surprise. Not!

Brace yourself for next year. A full frontal assault on Christ and His Church, originating at the highest levels. Keep the Faith no matter what transpires. This horrific storm shall eventually pass.


6 posted on 07/15/2023 8:37:01 AM PDT by Deo volente ("When we see the image of a baby in the womb, we glimpse the majesty of God's creation." Pres. Trump)
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To: Deo volente

AMEN!


7 posted on 07/15/2023 8:43:38 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: ebb tide

Evil on full display. He’s equating condemning sodomy with women wearing veils. “Oh we can’t outlaw murder otherwise we’d have to issue speeding tickets as well.” And? It’s also disgusting the way he’s trying to not so subliminally freak out women. AND he’s some sort of idiot who is ignoring what the Church teaches about discipline and doctrine.

For the entire history of the Church saints and doctors have insisted that even the demons are repulsed by homosexual activity. Humans have come up with a sin so vile it makes the demons vomit and those monsters occupying Rome are so sick they’re embracing it. Bergoglio is an apostate, he’s certainly not the Bishop of Rome.


8 posted on 07/15/2023 8:52:14 AM PDT by Legatus (May the zot be with you)
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To: ebb tide

The women in Jesus’s day didn’t wear veils. How does he come up with this one?


9 posted on 07/15/2023 9:02:46 AM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: Beowulf9

She is confusing Christianity with Islam. Total ignorance.


10 posted on 07/15/2023 9:08:43 AM PDT by Revel
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To: ebb tide

Dude is a lunatic immersed in cultural relativism and fixated on homosexual perversion as some new thing, which it is not. These degenerates have not invented anything new. This cat needs to just read the scripture and repent of leading people astray. Another Bergoglio disaster. Dude needs heave ho from CDF.


11 posted on 07/15/2023 9:30:05 AM PDT by FlyingEagle
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To: ebb tide

Does that mean everything in the Bible should not be taken too literally? ... or just the parts the LGBT+FUBAR folks object to?


12 posted on 07/15/2023 9:41:51 AM PDT by antidemoncrat (AS )
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To: ebb tide

When anyone lives a life that comes from darkness.. they live in that darkness. How can it be encouraged by people supposedly serving God. Encouraged? There are churches today that are telling young people it’s okay to be homosexual. It’s okay to live in darkness and not have any hope of getting out.

No hope is the worst place to leave anyone.. in God there IS hope.

They will be judged on what they have done.. When in leadership, you are held to a higher standard. Ya can’t be telling folks anything you want to.. the Bible says that lifestyle is an abomination. Meaning, it goes against God’s design and do not partake! Don’t compare something God singled out as an abomination, to something He did not include as such.

And to know what God says and what it is said He says... get to know God as your heavenly Father.. Know Jesus as your ‘go to’ Friend in all things.. get to know Him.. and you will find answers.. you will know what He is like and you will live in His peace.


13 posted on 07/15/2023 9:58:34 AM PDT by frnewsjunkie
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14 posted on 07/15/2023 10:04:55 AM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://youtu.be/wH-pk2vZG2M)
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To: ebb tide

He’s a fag ...


15 posted on 07/15/2023 12:06:13 PM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: Revel

Stupid must be going for cheap these days because so many are buying it.


16 posted on 07/15/2023 3:52:45 PM PDT by Beowulf9
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