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To: vespa300

“U kind of lost me.”

Man has the choice of what to follow and what not to follow. If the USPS wishes to work on Sunday, or what ever day, then that’s a decision they made. By taking a job which could have placed him working on his sabbath, which for him appears to be Sunday, I can’t fathom why he did it if it was against his religion. That like the Jewish taking a job where they work on Saturday. That is upon them and they shouldn’t force the employer to change what the company is and has been doing for a long time. I put that on the employee.

And other religions have days a lot like the Christian sabbath. Buddhists also have a day of rest, which is called Uposatha. Hindu temples observe a specific day for worship, they do not observe a set day. Sikhs do not have a particular day of worship, he says, but due to the American work week, Sunday is a popular day for services. Johar says his gurdwara has formal services on Wednesdays and Fridays, in addition to Sundays. And these are all major attended religions throughout the world thus the US.

As an employer, if I have a person who cannot attend to the job for any reason, and doesn’t tell the employer at the time of hiring that he/she can’t, then they shouldn’t be hired if they cannot do the job and should look for a job that doesn’t interfere with their personal time if it means that much to them. But not telling the employer a shortfall to completing the job and then demanding the job be changed for their personal desires, I believe borders on the line of dishonesty. If you had a politician that wanted your vote but told you they couldn’t do the job for personal reason, would you vote for them. I wouldn’t. And what about the military, the police, the firefighters, and the ambulance and hospital services? Do they close up shop if their nurses and doctors want to worship. If they do, people die. Should be the same for everyone.

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84 posted on 07/01/2023 9:53:28 PM PDT by whitney69
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To: whitney69; vespa300
Man has the choice of what to follow and what not to follow. If the USPS wishes to work on Sunday, or what ever day, then that’s a decision they made. By taking a job which could have placed him working on his sabbath, which for him appears to be Sunday, I can’t fathom why he did it if it was against his religion.

The job description did not require this employee to work on Sundays when he took the job. The USPS added that requirement later when making an accomodation for Amazon.

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/22pdf/22-174_k536.pdf

Groff v. Dejoy, Postmaster General, U.S. Sup. Ct. No. 22–174 (29 Jn 2023), Opinion of the Court at pp. 1-3: [blue font added]

Gerald Groff is an Evangelical Christian who believes for religious reasons that Sunday should be devoted to worship and rest, not “secular labor” and the “transport[ation]” of worldly “goods.” App. 294. In 2012, Groff began his employment with the United States Postal Service (USPS), which has more than 600,000 employees. He became a Rural Carrier Associate, a job that required him to assist regular carriers in the delivery of mail. When he took the position, it generally did not involve Sunday work. But within a few years, that changed. In 2013, USPS entered into an agreement with Amazon to begin facilitating Sunday deliveries, and in 2016, USPS signed a memorandum of understanding with the relevant union (the National Rural Letter Carriers’ Association) that set out how Sunday and holiday parcel delivery would be handled. During a 2-month peak season, each post office would use its own staff to deliver packages. At all other times, Sunday and holiday deliveries would be carried out by employees (including Rural Carrier Associates like Groff) working from a “regional hub.” For Quarryville, Pennsylvania, where Groff was originally stationed, the regional hub was the Lancaster Annex.

The memorandum specifies the order in which USPS employees are to be called on for Sunday work outside the peak season. First in line are each hub’s “Assistant Rural Carriers”— part-time employees who are assigned to the hub and cover only Sundays and holidays. Second are any volunteers from the geographic area, who are assigned on a rotating basis. And third are all other carriers, who are compelled to do the work on a rotating basis. Groff fell into this third category, and after the memorandum of understanding was adopted, he was told that he would be required to work on Sunday. He then sought and received a transfer to Holtwood, a small rural USPS station that had only seven employees and that, at the time, did not make Sunday deliveries. But in March 2017, Amazon deliveries began there as well.

With Groff unwilling to work on Sundays, USPS made other arrangements. During the peak season, Sunday deliveries that would have otherwise been performed by Groff were carried out by the rest of the Holtwood staff, including the postmaster, whose job ordinarily does not involve delivering mail. During other months, Groff’s Sunday assignments were redistributed to other carriers assigned to the regional hub. Throughout this time, Groff continued to receive “progressive discipline” for failing to work on Sundays. 35 F.4th 162, 166 (CA3 2022). Finally, in January 2019, he resigned.

A few months later, Groff sued under Title VII, asserting that USPS could have accommodated his Sunday Sabbath practice “without undue hardship on the conduct of [USPS’s] business.” 42 U. S. C. §2000e(j).


86 posted on 07/01/2023 10:52:19 PM PDT by woodpusher
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