Posted on 03/27/2023 7:58:55 PM PDT by fishtank
There is a big difference between Biblically experiencing Jesus in manifest regeneration versus intellectually theorizing the Bible in order to justify their esoteric cultic experiences. As Swedenborg and the Roy Masters also did. "Swedenborg's approach to proving the veracity of his theological teachings was to use voluminous quotations from the Old Testament and the New Testament to demonstrate agreement with the Bible, and this is found throughout his theological writings."
Problem is, people claim Him to be their Savior and treat Him like a lifeguard that can pluck them when drowning. Which would you sooner have, a lifeguard that rescues you, or a lifeguard that teaches you how to swim. While Jesus can rescue us, He was teaching us how to grow. He even stated in John 14 that the things that He does and even more you too shall do in His name. Why aren’t people doing some of these things if they are following His teachings?... The Bible is very accurate. People just stay in their intellect and practice their religion like the legalistic Pharisees, arguing about it rather than experiencing and living it.
What you are arguing is that since many who claim to be Christian do not like as such, then this validates you, whose esoteric doctrine is right due to some claimed fruit, yet which implicitly denigrates those who do live effectual Christian lives as regenerate believers but whose soteriology is contrary to yours, and who thus implicitly reprove you as part of them "swimming" after being rescued. And which includes holy and fruitful servants of Christ of past revivals in great awakenings with sound doctrine and its blessed fruit, and including miracles of then and even today, by the grace of God. Not legalistic Pharisees.
I can prove what I say with hard science, evidence based medicine, and actual demonstrations. It’s easy to prove the life review process as those stored memories in their soul of life experiences are physical to me as a result of accepting Jesus and the Holy Spirit into me. It’s an easy demonstration.
So could many psychic healers who actually did heal, such as Arigo: Brazil's Surgeon of the Rusty Knife. Or you can compete with the claimed miracles of William Branham A test is what doctrinal compromise will one pay for healing. No one is saved by heat like a furnace cleansing for 3 weeks on earth to be made pure enough to be in the Light of Heaven. Etc.
Anger in and of itself is not sin. There is no commandment that says “Thou shalt not become angry”.
Of course! All of us need to be engaged as learners who are willing to be exposed to a better grip of the doctrine of the first Jesus-trained disciple-apostles by regular fellowship with a fellow spiritually mature student of the scriptures. That is, to be a “Timothy” in relationship to a well-developed “Paul” whose excellence in handling the Word is well-recognized. Not merely “going to church” with no plan for piritual development. I’ll certaily ask the Lord to guide you toward that kind of satisfying challenge!
Gladly.
You use many logical fallices in your arguments, including straw man multiple times. It makes it difficult for me to give merit to your statements.
“Sometimes God answers ‘No’ when you pray…
Sometimes God answers ‘Yes’ when you pray.”
I’ll still be diligent.
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Like the joke about the old man who prayed every day at the Western Wall in Jerusalem for many years.
When asked by the reporter if he hears God in his prayers, the old man replied “Most of the time I feel like I’m talking to the F’n Wall!”
No.
Your “joke” isn’t funny at all.
It’s completely irrelevant.
It’s not like that.
God hears my prayer.
And I will still be diligent for your sake.
To claim to be a Christian while teaching what is not Scriptural is the logical fallacy, and the straw man is categorizing the contrary to your esoterical ethos as those of an inert faith, as legalistic Pharisees, as those who intellectual theorizing the Bible, and merit to your statements militants against Scripture.
Even a 3 year old child can understand John 6:28-29.
Why do “intellectuals” insist Jesus meant something else?
That's very gracious of you.
Jesus MUST have, because their accepted ‘theology’ says something different than J 6:28-29.
I agree with you. Let them figure out how to eat Jesus’s flesh and drink His blood.
How to become one with Him.
Only then will they truly know Him.
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Ps. Keep in mind that words and names are merely metaphors for a pattern of consciousness that has meaning. Bring that consciousness into you and you into it.
Only then can you understand John 14, that God is in Jesus and Jesus is in God.
And, if Jesus is in you then Our Father that is in Him is also in you.
These words are true. Not metaphoric.
If you reread John 1 with this thouhht it in mind, it reveals new meaning.
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