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Peter, the born-again apostle
Bible ^ | About 55 AD | Peter

Posted on 03/27/2023 7:58:55 PM PDT by fishtank

1 Peter 1:3

KJV

Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead.


TOPICS: General Discusssion
KEYWORDS: bornagain; fleshisflesh; notyet; peter; spiritisspirit
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To: 21twelve

Exactly.

When you fly above the clouds,you are unaware of the storms on earth below you.

You can tune your consciousness so low that you embrace fear and worry, or you can focus on Loving God and tune to a level of Love and Bliss.

Your choice.

Thus Jesus’s number one commandment is “LOVE GOD.”


21 posted on 03/28/2023 2:16:01 AM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings )
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To: 21twelve

When you are born from your mother’s womb, you beging to use your bodily senses to prrceive a new reality. It takes time to learn and coordinate alk that you see, taste, smell, hear, and touch.

So it is in transcendence when you begin to perceive directly with your consciousness beyond your physical body. The blind can see with consciousness. It’s an entirely new reality, but you cannot achieve it until you cleanse your soul of sin(with the help of the Holy Spirit).

You are actually raising your brain wave frequency above 40 Hz as reflected on an EEG.

This is the “lifted or raised up” Jesus spoke of. It is only with your higher prayerful consciousness that you will perceive Jesus, just as the lightning in the east is seen in the west.


22 posted on 03/28/2023 2:24:45 AM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings )
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To: Olog-hai

No.
It doesn’t.


23 posted on 03/28/2023 4:50:59 AM PDT by Ken Regis (I concur. )
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To: fishtank

Thanks for that. I thought “born again” only appeared in John.


24 posted on 03/28/2023 5:14:28 AM PDT by far sider
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To: Olog-hai

Look up ‘SECOND DEATH’.


25 posted on 03/28/2023 5:30:55 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: imardmd1
 
 

 
Micah 6:8
He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the LORD require of you?
To act justly and to love mercy and to walk humbly with your God.


John 6:28-29
Then they asked him, "What must we do to do the works God requires?
 Jesus answered, "The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent."



26 posted on 03/28/2023 5:33:51 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: tired&retired
When you fly above the clouds,you are unaware of the storms on earth below you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6RxE-f2iyQ

27 posted on 03/28/2023 5:36:53 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

Great video... But there were no clouds as the sky was clear!


28 posted on 03/28/2023 7:36:20 AM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings )
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To: Elsie

That’s in the context of the judgment of the Great White Throne.

Take note of 1 John 3:9, where it says that those “born of God do not sin”.


29 posted on 03/28/2023 10:59:17 AM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Ken Regis

Proof by assertion, with all due respect.


30 posted on 03/28/2023 10:59:54 AM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Olog-hai

No.

It isn’t.


31 posted on 03/28/2023 11:52:45 AM PDT by Ken Regis (I concur. )
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To: Ken Regis

Repeating proof by assertion is twice the logical fallacy. Yes. It is.

Have a good day.


32 posted on 03/28/2023 11:58:29 AM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Olog-hai

I just looked at your recent posts.
Before yesterday, I’ve never heard of you.
You seem arrogant- always making assertions.

You like to have the last word, don’t you?

“When you try to fix the fix that God has fixed to fix you, God will find another fix to fix you.“

No. That’s not in the Bible but just like my first message, it is true. It’s an opportunity for you to learn something. It teaches you something— If you’re open to learn.

Otherwise, have the last word.


33 posted on 03/28/2023 12:07:20 PM PDT by Ken Regis (I concur. )
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To: tired&retired; 21twelve; Syncro; Olog-hai; ConservativeMind; ealgeone; Mark17; BDParrish; ...
This “born again” has physical changes in perception. It has to do with raising your consciousness frequency through prayer and meditation to levels where you perceive directly with your consciousness beyond your physical body..... This is how the Christian mystics and Saints do what they do.

So it is in transcendence when you begin to perceive directly with your consciousness beyond your physical body. The blind can see with consciousness. It’s an entirely new reality, but you cannot achieve it until you cleanse your soul of sin(with the help of the Holy Spirit). You are actually raising your brain wave frequency above 40 Hz as reflected on an EEG. This is the “lifted or raised up” Jesus spoke of. It is only with your higher prayerful consciousness that you will perceive Jesus, just as the lightning in the east is seen in the west.

No: . John 3 does not refer to some process of consciousness raising and progressive cleansing, of being “lifted or raised up” via "higher prayerful consciousness," but an event of being being born "anew"by the Spirit, of being forgiven and receiving the actual Spirit of Christ, which results in basic profound changes in heart and life. Meaning that of conversion by penitent, effectual; heart-purifying, regenerating faith, (Acts 10:43-47; 15:7-9 Titus 3:5) which faith is is imputed for righteousness, (Romans 4:5) and is what is shown in water baptism and following the Lord, (Acts 2:38-47; Jn. 10:27,28) who was sent by the Father to be the savior of the world. (1 John 4:14)

And by which faith the redeemed soul is "accepted in the Beloved" and positionally seated with Him in Heaven, on His account, glory to God. (Ephesians 1:6; 2:6; cf. Phil. 3:21) And while there are different degrees of growth in knowing and being Christ-like, and positions with Christ, yet all all those who die in that obedient faith will go to be forever with Him at death or His return (Phil 1:23; 2Cor. 5:8 [“we”]; Heb, 12:22,23; 1Cor. 15:51ff'; 1Thess. 4:17) In contrast to those who were never born of the Spirit or who terminally fall away. (Gal. 5:1-4; Heb. 3:12; 10:25-39

Your "theology" in and behind so many of your claims (including such as "The life review process is merely the soul absorbing the Light energy of Heaven causing it to expand through the stored memories in their soul in reverse sequence. This is what Paul was referring to in Hebrews 9:28", "Hell is the experience of those who hold onto guilt, fear,... I’ve helped thousands of these souls cleanse to enter the Light through prayer." "Merely touching a sin stored many feet from a person’s physical body in their soul often knocks the person off their feet. When people die near me, I get freezing cold as they are draining my soul energy to expand," and "a 97 year old woman who was blind and bedridden... did not eat anything for the next 3 weeks...I sat next to her, praying non stop...Her physical body began radiating heat like a furnace...I could see the liquid swirling golden Light around the woman... the Holy Spirit came upon her in a lower strength of Light and cleansed her soul for 3 weeks before she was pure enough to be in the Light of Heaven" "With enough meditation and prayer, anyone can make this journey to Heaven while still in your physical body") is close to such cultists as Swedenborg and the Roy Masters.

For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him. (2 Corinthians 11:4) And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works. (2 Corinthians 11:14-15)


34 posted on 03/28/2023 12:15:44 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned+destitute sinner, trust Him who saves, be baptized + follow Him!)
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To: Olog-hai
You lack understanding - or worse.

No one born of God makes a practice of sinning, for God's seed abides in him; and he cannot keep on sinning, because he has been born of God. 1 John 3:9 (ESV)

3:8 is key to understanding v.9.

Whoever makes a practice of sinning is of the devil, for the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the works of the devil. 1 John 3:8

You also need to understand the context brought to you in vvs 4 and 6.

Everyone who makes a practice of sinning also practices lawlessness; sin is lawlessness. 5 You know that he appeared in order to take away sins, and in him there is no sin. 6 No one who abides in him keeps on sinning; no one who keeps on sinning has either seen him or known him. 1 John 3:4-6

You've made a lot of mistakes on this thread.

35 posted on 03/28/2023 1:09:22 PM PDT by kinsman redeemer (The real enemy seeks to devour what is good. )
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To: daniel1212

You are entitled to your beliefs.

There is a big difference between intellectually theorizing the Bible and experiencing Jesus.

Jesus is my Savior. He is my Savior because He lowered Himself to be born in the flesh and teach us.

Problem is, people claim Him to be their Savior and treat Him like a lifeguard that can pluck them when drowning.

Which would you sooner have, a lifeguard that rescues you, or a lifeguard that teaches you how to swim.

While Jesus can rescue us, He was teaching us how to grow. He even stated in John 14 that the things that He does and even more you too shall do in His name.

Why aren’t people doing some of these things if they are following His teachings?

I can prove what I say with hard science, evidence based medicine, and actual demonstrations. It’s easy to prove the life review process as those stored memories in their soul of life experiences are physical to me as a result of accepting Jesus and the Holy Spirit into me. It’s an easy demonstration.

The Bible is very accurate. People just stay in their intellect and practice their religion like the legalistic Pharisees, arguing about it rather than experiencing and living it.

While I stand behind everything I stated above, do not accept it unless it fits as you study and pray on the meaning of the Bible scriptures.

There is much more I did not say as people are not ready for it. The signs of the times will be your own confirmation.

🙏


36 posted on 03/28/2023 2:12:15 PM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings )
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To: Olog-hai

“1 John 3:9, where it says that those “born of God do not sin”.

Did Jesus sin when He got angry and flipped over the money changer’s tables?


37 posted on 03/28/2023 2:30:44 PM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings )
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To: Olog-hai
Take note of 1 John 3:9, where it says that those “born of God do not sin”.

But before that...

1 John 2:1 niv

My dear children, I write this to you so that you will not sin. But if anybody does sin, we have an advocate with the Father—Jesus Christ, the Righteous One.

38 posted on 03/28/2023 2:47:22 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: tired&retired

You apparently have a very fertile, though unbiblical, imagination. The Lord Jesus Messiah, having died physically on the cross to fully propitiate the Mighty Judge’s righteous demands to make reconciliation here and now between the human individual and His Heavenly Father, His completely non-functional for exsanguinared body placed in an earthly tomb; His soul and spirit completely gone from that body at His command; spirit set to His Father and soul descended to Abraham’s bosom (= Paradise); on the third day of the Biblical He revived in His new flesh-and-bond bloodless spirit body with His soul and spirit perfectly of both Divine and human substance integrated within it; walkedthe earth in it, and then entered the spiritual dimensionn, since then enthroned at His Father’s Righteous Person. No physical part of His loving spiritual body can possible have returned to this 4-dimensional temporal realm, which is your great unsaved error.


39 posted on 03/28/2023 3:07:07 PM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux (Let There Be [God's] Light!) )
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To: imardmd1

Please pray for me that I might gain better understanding.

🙏🙏🙏


40 posted on 03/28/2023 4:11:02 PM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings )
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