Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

The Schismatic Trads Were Right? Francis’ New Rescript on the TLM
One Peter Five ^ | February 22, 2023 | Joseph Shaw

Posted on 02/23/2023 10:48:19 AM PST by ebb tide

The Schismatic Trads Were Right? Francis’ New Rescript on the TLM

he Latin Mass Society of England and Wales and the FIUV (Una Voce International) have issued a joint press release on yesterday’s Rescript, which insists that bishops may not allow the celebration of Masses in parish churches on their own authority: the matter is “reserved to the Holy See,” with the Dicastery for Divine Worship making the final decision. In the press release we have tried to explain exactly what this means and what happens next. As a matter of official Church policy, however, the whole business seems bizarre.

Advertisement - Continue Reading Below

We have repeatedly been told that Pope Francis is concerned about people “on the peripheries” of the Church. He wants to make them feel welcome and included. And yet here is a policy which is specifically designed to make people feel unwelcome and excluded, and to drive people who had found a precarious spiritual home in a parish to the peripheries. Catholics attached to the Traditional Mass must be made to feel like second-class citizens.

The Dicastery for Divine Worship made this quite clear in their previous document on this subject, the Responsa ad dubia:

The exclusion of the parish church is intended to affirm that the celebration of the Eucharist according to the previous rite, being a concession limited to these groups, is not part of the ordinary life of the parish community.

The “ordinary life of the parish community” is something from which the “group” of Traditional Catholics is to be excluded. They must be pushed out.

The drafters of this document seem to feel some embarrassment about this bald statement and a few paragraphs later they try to claw it back a bit:

There is no intention in these provisions to marginalise the faithful who are rooted in the previous form of celebration: they are only meant to remind them that this is a concession to provide for their good (in view of the common use of the one lex orandi of the Roman Rite) and not an opportunity to promote the previous rite.

Advertisement - Continue Reading Below

So, they insist, it is not meant to marginalise them. Ok, so what is it supposed to do? It “reminds” them of something: that they are second-class citizens, perhaps. And then we get this odd claim: that this “concession” to allow them the Old Mass is “not an opportunity to promote” it, something that happens, apparently, by the mere fact of it taking place in the same ecclesiastical building as the Novus Ordo, however many hours separate the two services. It seems that attachment to the Traditional Mass to tantamount to having a contagious disease, from which the real “parish community,” the hitherto uninfected ones, must be protected.

Those Trads need to be quarantined.

No amount of weasel words can hide it: we are to be kept apart from others, isolated, until we oblige the Holy See by withering away. If you like the Traditional Mass, you are ipso facto, by that very fact, not a part of the “parish community”: even if it so happens that you have worshipped in that parish all your life.

Some people have suggested over the years that Catholics attached to the Traditional Mass would do well to avoid appearing stand-offish, or even as having a “schismatic mentality,” and integrate themselves as much as possible into their parishes: go along to parish events, contribute to fund-raising, join the rota for cleaning the church, get stuck in to the finance committee, and whatever else is going on. How easy this is in practice has varied a good deal: parish events on Saturdays and weekday evenings don’t seem so attractive if you live 100 miles away. Nevertheless, when it works, parishes with celebrations of both missals have found Trads among their most dedicated and generous parishioners. In some cases the very survival of a parish has come to depend upon them.

Advertisement - Continue Reading Below

But how wrong we all were. We have now heard from the Holy See in unambiguous terms that the integration into parish life of Catholics attached to the older Missal is a thoroughly bad thing. The ones with a schismatic mentality, whatever that was supposed to mean, are the good ones: or at least the less bad ones. The ones contributing to the new roof or the parish pot-luck need to be “reminded” that, truly, they are not welcome. Perhaps a place can be found for them in a cramped convent chapel or a rented meeting-room, to rub the point in. The ideal, however, is for them to go away, or cease to exist.

I started to attend the TLM before Summorum Pontificum in 2007, when the official attitude was pretty similar to the one being promoted today. I experienced several Mass locations where the Traditional Mass was available, but where we were nonetheless deliberately made to feel unwelcome. The times of our Masses were not advertised; we weren’t allowed to use a parish room for a social gathering after Mass; sermons included snide little remarks about us. In one case, Masses took place in a municipal meeting room which we hired by the hour. I’m a cradle Catholic, and discovering the ancient Mass was a strange experience: I’d found my liturgical heritage, but lost  my ecclesial home. I had located myself in the Church’s history and tradition, but been turfed out of the Church in social terms.

That’s what they want to do to us again, but things have changed. The attitude of the clergy is by and large completely different today, and that includes many bishops. This new policy is going to cause great pain quite pointlessly to many good people, but it will fail. The Church is our home, and we are not leaving it: and the priests who celebrate the old Mass for us certainly do not want to see us go.

This Lent, offer some prayers and penances for a return to a sane and pastoral attitude: that space be made for the faithful who want the older Mass, and for the priests who want to give it to them. In the words of Pope Benedict XVI: “Let us generously open our hearts and make room for everything that the faith itself allows.”

Advertisement - Continue Reading Below

Editor’s note: join the fellowship of St. Nicholas (English or Español) to offer corporate fasting for this intention.


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Theology; Worship
KEYWORDS: antipope; apostatepope; dictatorpope; donatetofreerepublic; frankenchurch
We have repeatedly been told that Pope Francis is concerned about people “on the peripheries” of the Church. He wants to make them feel welcome and included. And yet here is a policy which is specifically designed to make people feel unwelcome and excluded, and to drive people who had found a precarious spiritual home in a parish to the peripheries. Catholics attached to the Traditional Mass must be made to feel like second-class citizens.
1 posted on 02/23/2023 10:48:19 AM PST by ebb tide
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: Al Hitan; Fedora; irishjuggler; Jaded; kalee; markomalley; miele man; Mrs. Don-o; ...

Ping


2 posted on 02/23/2023 10:52:52 AM PST by ebb tide
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: MurphsLaw
French Archbishop: Pope Francis Is on the Side of LGB People and Their Families

But he hates traditional Catholics and their families. Right, Murph?

3 posted on 02/23/2023 10:59:00 AM PST by ebb tide
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: ebb tide

Satan hates Latin.


4 posted on 02/23/2023 11:09:28 AM PST by G Larry ( "woke" means 'stupid enough to fall for the promotion of every human weakness into a virtue')
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ebb tide
And you're unhappy about this?
This makes your case !

Soon you will be able to have your own, competing Pope...


5 posted on 02/23/2023 11:13:37 AM PST by MurphsLaw ("(A sword will pierce through your own soul also), that thoughts out of many hearts may be revealed")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: MurphsLaw

You seem to be delighted with this pontificate.

Aren’t you a good little modernist!


6 posted on 02/23/2023 11:17:28 AM PST by ebb tide
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: ebb tide
Delighted with Pope Francis? No...
Ready to pull a Judas on the Church?... No.

I trust in God too much to be "worried"...


7 posted on 02/23/2023 11:24:44 AM PST by MurphsLaw ("(A sword will pierce through your own soul also), that thoughts out of many hearts may be revealed")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: MurphsLaw

Seem more like you “Trust in Francis”.


8 posted on 02/23/2023 11:38:23 AM PST by ebb tide
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: MurphsLaw

Yes, in fact, we’re unhappy about the “pope” accepting a particular class of sinful behavior as “OK” and worthy of a special emphasis of support from the Church.


9 posted on 02/23/2023 11:55:07 AM PST by steve86 (Numquam accusatus, numquam ad curiam ibit, numquam ad carcerem™)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: steve86
Do you.. or don't you...
Trust in the providence of God...
and the Holy Spirit anymore, who has guided his Church for 2000 years?

(And it's not a trick question)


10 posted on 02/23/2023 5:27:19 PM PST by MurphsLaw ("(A sword will pierce through your own soul also), that thoughts out of many hearts may be revealed")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: steve86

In all likelihood the Catholic Church hating Bergoglio is a heretic and s sodomite.


11 posted on 02/23/2023 5:33:07 PM PST by NKP_Vet (Catholic-lite Equals Catholic-ZERO)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: MurphsLaw

“Do you.. or don’t you...
Trust in the providence of God...
and the Holy Spirit anymore”

Yes, of course I do. But the guidance to the conclave by the Holy Ghost ended (temporarily) when the false pope, antipope, bad pope — was elected. St. Malachy hinted strongly that valid apostolic succession would end with Benedict. This chastisement to Jesus’ own Church could have been avoided by a proper consecration of Russia, among other things.


12 posted on 02/23/2023 5:43:45 PM PST by steve86 (Numquam accusatus, numquam ad curiam ibit, numquam ad carcerem™)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: steve86
That is good to hear.

A Papal truism that we all must bear in mind is...

"They can't all be winners"

We must Trust in God, above ALL else...


13 posted on 02/23/2023 6:29:00 PM PST by MurphsLaw ("(A sword will pierce through your own soul also), that thoughts out of many hearts may be revealed")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson