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Leaked FBI Document: More than meets the eye
aka Catholic ^ | February 13, 2023 | Louie Verrecchio

Posted on 02/14/2023 3:01:23 PM PST by ebb tide

Leaked FBI Document: More than meets the eye

The big Catholic news story of late concerns a leaked internal FBI document targeting traditional Catholics.

The document, which originated in the FBI’s Richmond field office and is dated 23 January 2023, provides a list of “the nine RTC (radical-traditionalist Catholic) hate groups operating in the United States in 2021 as defined by the Southern Poverty Law Center” (SPLC). The list is as follows:

Many commentators have expressed shock and outrage that the FBI cites the radical-leftist SPLC as an expert witness in such matters. 

It’s actually not surprising in the least given the degree to which the political partisanship of the Bureau has been on display in recent years, but I suspect that the relationship goes back much further and is far more symbiotic than it appears. 

Call me a crazy conspiracy theorist if you will (to which I will reply, thank you very much), but I believe there is good reason to suspect that the SPLC is a CIA asset. We’ll return to this topic momentarily. 

The document opens by noting, “The increasingly observed interest of racially or ethnically motivated violent extremists (RMVEs) in radical-traditionalist Catholic (RTC) ideology.” The document goes on to state that the FBI believes that this interest “is likely to increase over the next 12-24 months.”

As for how this interest has been observed, the document reveals that this assessment is based on “FBI investigations, local law enforcement agency reporting, and liaison reporting.”

The document warns that “RMVEs will continue to find RTC ideology attractive and will continue to attempt to connect with RTC adherents, both virtually via social media and in-person at places of worship.”

The situation as described, according to the FBI, “presents opportunities for threat mitigation through the exploration of new avenues for tripwire and source development.” In other words, it will be used as an excuse for investigating (and frustrating) the activities of law abiding “traditional” Catholics.

At this, some definitions are in order. 

Firstly: In order to grasp at the relevance of the leaked document, one must be clear that it isn’t an essay; it’s an intelligence product, a briefing written specifically for the benefit of those who operate in that world. 

As such, its language is often precise, with certain of its words and phrases drawn directly from the intelligence community’s lexicon. To the extent that we can, we should attempt to read it and understand it as such.   

For example, where the document speaks of “racially or ethnically motivated violent extremists (RMVEs),” we need to consider that the author isn’t just playing wordsmith. In the intelligence world, RMVEs are no joke, i.e., they’re not just a loosely organized collection of sketchy malcontent wannabes. 

On April 29, 2021, the U.S. House of Representatives Subcommittee on Intelligence and Counterterrorism of the Committee on Homeland Security held a hearing on “Racially and Ethnically Motivated Violent Extremism” (RMVE). 

At this hearing, when asked to comment on the government’s “ability to designate these violent RMVEs” with “sufficient credible information that meets standards for designation,” John T. Godfrey, U.S. State Department Acting Coordinator for Counterterrorism, offered the following reply:                            

In order to designate a group [as an RMVE], we have to be able to demonstrate that it is engaged in terrorist activity, and that is defined as having a capacity and an intent to carry out terrorist activity.

NB: With this definition in mind, we can summarize the leaked document, such as we’ve examined it thus far, to state the following:

Local and Federal law enforcement agencies have determined that groups presently engaged in terrorist activity are actively attempting to connect with traditional Catholics, both virtually and in-person at places of worship.

Is this true, or is this just another Russiagate style “investigation” designed to produce a totally fabricated, predetermined finding as a means to an unstated end? You decide.

Speaking for myself – despite more than a decade of membership in a traditional parish and having logged just as many years of activity in traditional Catholic media, including direct interaction and collaboration with several of the “hate groups” named above – I don’t reckon I’ve encountered even one violent extremist terrorist.         

Now, let’s see if we can get our hands around what the intelligence community means by “hate group.” 

This proves a bit more difficult. Whereas RMVE has a very precise meaning, “hate group” does not. The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) suggests that this is so because “the term is complex” (see below).

This, to be certain, is by design as the definition can be tailored to fit whomever the government wishes to target (e.g., conspiracy theorist, racist, anti-Semite, etc.).

That said, DHS does provide a working definition:

The term hate group is frequently used but rarely defined. The term is complex and refers to “any organized group whose beliefs and actions are rooted in enmity towards an entire class of people based on ethnicity, perceived race, sexual orientation, religion, or other inherent characteristic.”

Enmity… a word one rarely hears spoken in ordinary discourse. Where have we encountered it before? 

I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and thy seed and her seed: she shall crush thy head, and thou shalt lie in wait for her heel. (Gen 3:15)

Again, call me what you will, but I would suggest that the choice of words here is not coincidental, even if the author of the text was personally unaware. 

You see, Satan in his arrogance demands public worship. This, as a way of mocking Christ the King, He toward whom every person is duty bound to offer public worship.

The Evil One inspires his minions to give him public worship in various ways, sometimes merely by hint (as above), but at other times more blatantly (e.g., the demonic performance “unholy” at the recent Grammy Awards sponsored by your friends at Pfizer.)

With this in mind, the definition of “hate group” as offered by the DHS provides a rare moment of honesty: The target of their operation in this particular case can be well understood as those belonging to the seed of the woman. 

That the SPLC and FBI label traditional Catholics as a “hate group” is a sure indication of their true identity as “those that call evil good, and good evil: that put darkness for light, and light for darkness: that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter.” Woe to them! (cf Isa 5:20)

This brings us to the definition of “radical traditional Catholic” (RTC) as understood by the FBI. Fortunately, it is provided in the footnotes to the leaked document:

RTCs are typically characterized by the rejection of the Second Vatican Council (Vatican II) as a valid church council; disdain for most of the popes elected since Vatican II, particularly Pope Francis and Pope John Paul II; and frequent adherence to anti-Semitic, anti-immigrant, anti-LGBTQ, and white supremacist ideology. Radical-traditionalist Catholics compose a small minority of overall Roman Catholic adherents and are separate and distinct from “traditionalist Catholics” who prefer the Traditional Latin Mass and pre-Vatican II teachings and traditions, but without the more extremist ideological beliefs and violent rhetoric.

Pay no attention to the proposed difference between RTCs and those attached to the Traditional Latin Mass and pre-conciliar doctrine; they are one and the same. As for “white supremacist ideology,” this is a wholesale, slanderous lie. On any given Holy Day, my FSSP parish, for instance, is well populated with minorities and mixed race couples.

The FBI footnote goes on to cite certain “significant reforms” that took place as a result of Vatican II – the same that traditional Catholics reject – including conciliar “attitudes toward non-Christian religions” and “views on religious freedom.”

IMPORTANT: The “significant reforms” that came forth from the Second Vatican Council were themselves the result of a U.S. intelligence operation, one that implemented a program called “doctrinal warfare,” the father of which was a man by the name of Edward Lilly, a wealthy Catholic from an elite family who was a member of the U.S. National Security Council from 1952-1965.   

As documented extensively by David Wemoff in his 900-page exposé, John Courtney Murray, Time/Life and the American Proposition : How the CIA’s Doctrinal Warfare Program Changed the Catholic Church, the doctrinal warfare program was used by the CIA in an attempt to undermine traditional Catholicism from within, most notably at Vatican II. Why? Because U.S. intelligence considered authentic Catholicism an “opposition system” that stood in the way of so-called American interests.

In a 2020 presentation, Wemoff states:

The CIA and the American intelligence community was interested in advancing heresies, or alternative theological bases, within the Catholic Church to promote the First Amendment as a system of social organization. (Youtube linked above, see 28:00 mark)

Make no mistake, the American intelligence community – including the FBI, DHS, CIA – is still determined to subvert every expression of authentic Catholic belief and action, but the reason, properly speaking, is neither to promote nor to export the social organizing principles set forth in the U.S. Constitution. In fact, I’d say that it never really was about that; the First Amendment is but a means to an end.  

Today, as we are becoming ever more aware, the phrase “American interests” is a misnomer invoked to inspire patriotic fervor as a tool for garnering public support, swaying public opinion, and controlling the citizenry. As understood by the wealthy elites and Deep State operatives that are driving the process, “American interests” are anything but American, they are synonymous with globalist interests.  

Having covered this ground, I wonder if my suspicion that the Southern Poverty Law Center is a CIA asset seems more reasonable to the reader. If not, consider what the SPLC plainly reveals on its website:

Joseph J. Levin, Jr., a native of Montgomery, Alabama, is co-founder of the Southern Poverty Law Center [1971] … In 1976, as a member of the Carter Presidential Transition Team, Levin supervised the Department of Justice transition and oversaw preparation of briefing books identifying critical issues for the incoming attorney general. He had special responsibility for analysis of Department of Justice national security oversight of the CIA, FBI, NSA, and military intelligence functions.  

Clearly, Levin was already an intelligence community insider prior to being tapped by President-Elect Carter in 1976. So, which came first, his involvement in U.S. intelligence operations, or his founding of SPLC? I suspect it was the former, but either way, these two realities overlap and only a fool would dismiss the likelihood that one serves the interests of the other even to this day. 

Now does it make more sense that the FBI would accept the SPLC’s determination as to what constitutes a “hate group” that merits the intelligence community’s attention? 

In conclusion, despite reports that the FBI has retracted the leaked document, a number of things are abundantly clear:

Even though we should take comfort in this final point, we must prepare ourselves for suffering at the hands of Our Lord’s enemies. It is coming. Of this we can also be sure.


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: arrestwraytoday; biden; fbi; splc; vcii

1 posted on 02/14/2023 3:01:23 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: Al Hitan; Fedora; irishjuggler; Jaded; kalee; markomalley; miele man; Mrs. Don-o; ...

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2 posted on 02/14/2023 3:02:02 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

Stupid question, but why doesn’t anyone investigate the hate-group called the Southern Poverty Law Center?


3 posted on 02/14/2023 3:20:28 PM PST by ConservativeInPA (Stupidly is a moral problem, not an intellectual problem. )
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To: ebb tide
is likely to increase over the next 12-24 months.

Hmmm, I wonder what political event is happening during that time frame?

4 posted on 02/14/2023 3:21:05 PM PST by Major Matt Mason (To solve the Democrat problem, the RINO problem must first be solved.)
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To: ConservativeInPA

Agree. The SPLC is NO friend of the political right.


5 posted on 02/14/2023 3:22:49 PM PST by telescope115 (My feet are on the ground, and my head is in the stars.)
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To: ebb tide

‘The U.S. intelligence operation to subvert authentic (so-called “traditional”) Catholicism, with the hope of so altering the Faith from within as to obliterate it, began prior to Vatican II.’

If there’s any truth to this, it’d be a relatively rare example of a U.S. government operation that was a runaway success


6 posted on 02/14/2023 3:30:06 PM PST by irishjuggler
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To: ebb tide

To end up on the feeber list you only need to oppose homo pedo or trans crap and voila you’re magically a member of a “hate” group.


7 posted on 02/14/2023 3:40:13 PM PST by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same. )
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To: ConservativeInPA

That’s not a stupid question at all. In a just world they would have been investigated a long time ago.


8 posted on 02/14/2023 3:42:05 PM PST by Venkman
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To: ebb tide
" Leaked FBI Document: More than meets the eye"

Blah! Blah! Blah!
So what is new with that...
The FBI/government proved, during the 1990s, that they can freely incinerate a couple of dozen children, kill women holding babies, and assassinate innocent bystanders in a peaceful process!!!

”In your face” is our communist masters' favorite tool to rattle the chains of tyranny that they have wrapped around our necks...

No Big Deal!
Our communist masters know that the pathetically servile and indolent Aamerican people will just continue to roll over and spread their collective cheeks...

The Aamerican people now understand that the First Amendment calls for them to:
Bow down!... Obey!... Snitch!...

9 posted on 02/14/2023 3:47:14 PM PST by SuperLuminal (Where is the next Sam Adams when we so desperatly need him)
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To: ebb tide
Mankind must Repent and Return to God!

There is no human solution to this level of intricately interwoven cabal of evil.

10 posted on 02/14/2023 3:53:30 PM PST by G Larry ( "woke" means 'stupid enough to fall for the promotion of every human weakness into a virtue')
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To: ebb tide

“...the SPLC is a CIA asset.”

Well, there’s a fun concept.

How do we follow the money on that?


11 posted on 02/14/2023 3:58:12 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: telescope115
It’s interesting that the author potentially links the SPLC to the CIA. It makes sense. The CIA uses external groups and foreign countries to do their dirty work.

Also notice how tortured the memo’s language is. There is no checking in with the rights of free speech and free association. Hate isn’t illegal, although it will morally burn you out.

12 posted on 02/14/2023 3:58:24 PM PST by ConservativeInPA (Stupidly is a moral problem, not an intellectual problem. )
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To: ebb tide

Has anyone seen Ray Epps lately? Just askin’.


13 posted on 02/14/2023 4:17:25 PM PST by motherdearth ("Mercy Without Justice Is the Mother of Dissolution; Justice Without Mercy Is Cruelty")
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To: ebb tide

Sue Thomas would weep!


14 posted on 02/14/2023 4:37:49 PM PST by Mark (DONATE ONCE every 3 months-is that a big deal?)
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To: telescope115

Agree. The SPLC is NO friend of the political right.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
It’s no friend of America either!


15 posted on 02/14/2023 4:51:01 PM PST by fortes fortuna juvat (Democrat politicians and voters are dangerous psychopaths. They confirm it everyday.)
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To: fortes fortuna juvat
Agree. The SPLC is NO friend of the political right. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It’s no friend of America either!

Partner, great point.

16 posted on 02/14/2023 4:55:18 PM PST by TheConservativeTejano (The Business of America is Business)
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To: ebb tide

Again, the Feebs and the Southern Propaganda Law Center have been in bed together since at least the early 1990s.


17 posted on 02/14/2023 6:44:46 PM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: ebb tide

Tradional Catholics who believe in the Social Reign of Christ the King make lousy communists.


18 posted on 02/14/2023 7:12:39 PM PST by nanetteclaret (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column)
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To: ebb tide

I left my beloved Catholic Church due to its present Marxist Pope. I now attend bible study in a traditional Baptist Church. I guess that makes me a radical white supremacist worthy of investigation by the FBI? All are welcome in our bible study be they black, white, or anything.

I would much like to return to my Catholic Church. I can not until it goes back to its traditional teachings.


19 posted on 02/14/2023 9:03:31 PM PST by cpdiii (O)
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To: ebb tide

“Call me a crazy conspiracy theorist if you will…”

What’s the difference between a conspiracy theory and the truth?

About 6 months.

L


20 posted on 02/14/2023 9:05:36 PM PST by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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