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At some point, enough Catholics will wake up to the fact that Francis is a logical fruit of Vatican II; when we do that, we will follow the counsels of Pius XII and his predecessors who insisted that we make no compromises with the Liberalism and Modernism that infected the Council. Until that happens, we should expect God to permit the crisis in the Church and world to grow worse until we can no longer afford to maintain “our lukewarmness, our silence, our inclination to compromise, our hypocrisies, our yielding to the spirit of the world and the errors of the dominant ideologies.” God is allowing this because, as a loving Father, He would rather us suffer and save our souls than comfortably slide to perdition.
1 posted on 01/13/2023 4:05:13 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

The Church is run by man and man is evil.


2 posted on 01/13/2023 4:06:46 PM PST by bray (My book, The Republic of Texas explains everything )
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To: ebb tide

Free will?


4 posted on 01/13/2023 4:15:06 PM PST by bertmerc1 (Conservative Buddhist)
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To: ebb tide

It seems to be God’s way to a punish a couple people through their leadership.


6 posted on 01/13/2023 4:28:56 PM PST by The Duke (Never Retreat, Never Surrender!)
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To: ebb tide

Uhh,because man has DOMINION and has a wicked heart


7 posted on 01/13/2023 4:30:23 PM PST by spacejunkie2001
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To: ebb tide

Because God is not in control of the Catholic church, not need he be. Sometimes men feel they know more than God and force Him out. The Episcopal Church suffered the same demise. And God probably smiles. He will always be in control as the many organized religions stray, God is constant. If you seek Him, you will find He is still there.


8 posted on 01/13/2023 4:35:02 PM PST by ThePatriotsFlag (When Ashli Babbitt’s video-taped murderer Michael Byrd is indicted, I’ll start paying attention.)
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To: ebb tide

Be quiet.

God is not the author of evil.


9 posted on 01/13/2023 4:38:21 PM PST by Az Joe (Live free or die)
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To: ebb tide

The preachers in catholic churches will have a lot to answer for. They turned millions, perhaps billions, away from the true gospel.

Every mass, they call Jesus down to put him on the cross and sacrifice him again. Out of all the heresies, that is the worst.

The 2nd worse is the pope calling himself a representative of Jesus in human form.

Then you have the flock calling a mere preacher “father” when the bible forbids it


12 posted on 01/13/2023 4:45:12 PM PST by roving ( Pronouns- libs/suk)
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To: ebb tide

No robot that’s why.


20 posted on 01/13/2023 4:56:38 PM PST by Varsity Flight ( "War by the prophesies set before you." I Timothy 1:18. Nazarite prayer warriors. 10.5.6.5)
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To: ebb tide

Because the World has turned it’s back on God.


21 posted on 01/13/2023 4:56:50 PM PST by Huskrrrr (Alinsky, you magnificent Bastard, I read your book!)
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To: ebb tide

“God is allowing this because, as a loving Father, He would rather us suffer and save our souls than comfortably slide to perdition.”

Yes! Our Heavenly Father is setting the stage for many heroic martyrs. Let us not weaken.


22 posted on 01/13/2023 4:57:25 PM PST by Montana_Sam (Truth lives.)
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To: ebb tide

Roman Catholicism is no more the church than Mormonism and JW is. Just another false man-made religion.


23 posted on 01/13/2023 5:03:12 PM PST by Old Yeller
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To: ebb tide

Just remember what the Jews did to Jesus.


27 posted on 01/13/2023 5:14:32 PM PST by lucky american (Progressives are attacking our rights and y'all will sit there and take it.)
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To: ebb tide

The question betrays a bad understanding of scripture.


29 posted on 01/13/2023 5:15:29 PM PST by BereanBrain
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“God sees more than we can see. He knows more than we know. He works in ways beyond our comprehension.

(Isaiah 55:8-11) And if we agree to follow Him only when we understand what He’s doing, we’ll always stop short of experiencing His inexplicable wonders.”

wy69


30 posted on 01/13/2023 5:19:17 PM PST by whitney69
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To: ebb tide

God is Almighty good.


31 posted on 01/13/2023 5:21:43 PM PST by Theophilous Meatyard III
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To: ebb tide

It seems that it is time for some form of rebellion. The only options I see are to reform the Catholic church or to leave it.


33 posted on 01/13/2023 5:26:29 PM PST by ChessExpert (I would rather eat GMO than be a GMO.)
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To: ebb tide

Deu 28:63 “Just as the LORD has found great pleasure in causing you to prosper and multiply, the LORD will find pleasure in destroying you. You will be torn from the land you are about to enter and occupy.


Evidently, God takes pleasure is what he does.....................


35 posted on 01/13/2023 5:35:49 PM PST by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: ebb tide

The evil prevails in those absent of God. And since evil prevails when good wo(men) do nothing. The good have inass stood by too long to allow evil to prevail.


42 posted on 01/13/2023 6:21:13 PM PST by inchworm (al )
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To: ebb tide
If he were to wipe out ALL evil, then he'd have to kill everybody in the world- we are ALL born with sin in our lives, and only deserve death and eternal separation from God.

God gave us an out- believing in Jesus Christ His Son, and accepting His death on the cross as forgiveness for our sins and depravity.

God is not just sitting there doing nothing. He desperately wants all mankind to turn to Him, and He is patient in making this happen. His Son Jesus is saying to His Father, "Just one more. Let me get one more" .

P.S. from my reading history no evil every truly endures. Where's Adolf Hitler? Where's Stalin? Mao? Pol Pot? Castro? Lyndon Johnson?

52 posted on 01/14/2023 7:13:15 AM PST by MuttTheHoople (The best slaves put their own chains on )
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