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Is America at the End of the Road?
Jonathan Brentner ^ | 11/15/22 | Jonathan Brentner

Posted on 12/05/2022 7:17:08 AM PST by Roman_War_Criminal

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To: MHGinTN

First, do your coven masters teach you not to respond to bible texts that outright, and DIRECTLY contradict your false position on OSAS/OJAJ/PTR? Do they teach you to deny the word of God at any cost? Here they are again... One would think that a Christian, in good standing like yourself, would have no problems with explaining any scripture. Why do you dodge those texts, Professor? Why does Claire dodge it and the Angel/Saints question? It’s in the bible. It’s part of God’s word. Why are you so terrified? Is Andy a coward? He won’t talk about it? I know he won’t talk about the restrainer of the Antichrist being Pagan Rome, as ALL BUT ONE of the ECF’s, who spoke on the subject, clearly stated. If he did that, no one would buy his crap on Prophecy Watchers. Can’t have that, now can we?

Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of SINS THAT ARE PAST, through the forbearance of God. Romans 3:24-25

But he that lacketh these things is blind, and cannot see afar off, and hath forgotten that he was purged from his OLD SINS. 2 Peter 1:9


1,201 posted on 12/23/2022 4:36:39 AM PST by Philsworld
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To: Philsworld; MHGinTN

You can stop your tilting. Those windmills are of your own imagination. You can stop anytime you like by coming into reality. What you imagine to be there is not, Don.


1,202 posted on 12/23/2022 10:55:13 AM PST by SouthernClaire (And though after my skin worms destroy this body, yet in my flesh shall I see God ~ Job)
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To: Philsworld; MHGinTN

“But he that lacketh these things is blind, and cannot see afar off, and hath forgotten that he was purged from his OLD SINS. 2 Peter 1:9”

Just good, old-fashioned common sense should help you understand that the only sins that can be purged are old sins.


1,203 posted on 12/23/2022 11:09:00 AM PST by SouthernClaire (And though after my skin worms destroy this body, yet in my flesh shall I see God ~ Job)
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To: Philsworld; MHGinTN

Your “Romans” question has already been addressed, as has the saints/angels question way back. You, as always, refuse answers you don’t like, which is any answer that goes against the SDA Commentary. That’s your problem to work out, not anybody else’s. And you have yet to post a single thing you’ve worked out from Scripture, and you’ve made a ton of posts. I can’t recall a single one; rather, you post SDA Commentary.

You really should familiarize yourself with the Bible before making comment on it.


1,204 posted on 12/23/2022 11:12:44 AM PST by SouthernClaire (And though after my skin worms destroy this body, yet in my flesh shall I see God ~ Job)
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To: SouthernClaire; MHGinTN

Who knows where you would be now, Claire, spiritually I mean, if early on you had gotten different perspectives on scripture and come to the correct conclusions, before deciding to follow a “different” spirit. Commentaries are excellent study tools. I read through many of them. And, if I agree on their conclusions, and they explain it way better than I ever could, WHY WOULDN’T I QUOTE IT? I agree with it and it saves me a bunch of time by not having to type it out for OSAS dopes. It’s a win/win situation.


1,205 posted on 12/23/2022 2:39:04 PM PST by Philsworld
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To: SouthernClaire; MHGinTN
It's a shame that you have to be deceptive (not a good Christian attribute) by not posting BOTH texts. They are both talking about GRACE, and what it covers...Past sins/old sins...AS OPPOSED TO NEW/FUTURE SINS. These are clear statements by Paul and Peter. Could not be more clear.

Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of SINS THAT ARE PAST, through the forbearance of God. Romans 3:24-25

But he that lacketh these things is blind, and cannot see afar off, and hath forgotten that he was purged from his OLD SINS. 2 Peter 1:9

Shame on you Claire.

1,206 posted on 12/23/2022 2:57:12 PM PST by Philsworld
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To: SouthernClaire; MHGinTN

——>Your “Romans” question has already been addressed, as has the saints/angels question way back.

Not true when I asked you the first time, WAY BACK, or the 30 or more times since. You refuse to answer any questions that directly contradict/refute OSAS/OJAJ/PTR lies. MHG does the same thing. Created angels are CLEARLY called saints. And, grace ONLY covers past sins.

How do we know that grace ONLY covers past sins, Claire?

Hebrews 10:
26For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,

27But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.

28He that despised Moses’ law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:

29Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?

30For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people.

31It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.


1,207 posted on 12/23/2022 3:08:51 PM PST by Philsworld
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To: MHGinTN

Why do fake OSAS/OJAJ/PTR dodge questions, that if answered honestly, would sink their precious fake doctrines, by saying they already answered them, but didn’t?

Who do all but one of the ECF’s, who wrote on the subject, say the Restrainer of the Antichrist was?

Why does Claire keep refusing to answer questions about clear scripture calling created angels, SAINTS? Why would she give a dopey statement saying “angels are angels and saints are saints” and flat out refuse to answer my questions to her on a text that CLEARLY says that angels are called God’s SAINTS? Dude, why would she keep dodging that question? You know her better than I do. Can you explain that? She won’t. What possible reason would she have for not answering/discussing it?


1,208 posted on 12/23/2022 3:51:25 PM PST by Philsworld
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To: Philsworld

The SDA Jesus you halfway believe in apparently didn’t die for all of your sins. ‘Tis a pity. I guess you are just out of luck and damned for eternity. You’ve already admitted that you’re still a sinner. Take flame-retardant gear on your way out is all I know to tell ya. And ice water.

I praise God the Father through Christ Jesus, My Lord and My Savior, that He died on the cross for ALL of my sin. Past, present and future. I love Him for it.

God bless His Holy Righteous Name!


1,209 posted on 12/24/2022 12:05:30 AM PST by SouthernClaire (And though after my skin worms destroy this body, yet in my flesh shall I see God ~ Job)
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To: SouthernClaire

——>I praise God the Father through Christ Jesus, My Lord and My Savior, that He died on the cross for ALL of my sin. Past, present and future. I love Him for it.

——>God bless His Holy Righteous Name!

And yet, you commit, and teach LAWLESSNESS...

Matthew 7:
21Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?’ 23Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, YOU WORKERS OF LAWLESSNESS!’


1,210 posted on 12/24/2022 12:16:11 AM PST by Philsworld
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To: Philsworld

Prove I teach lawlessness. Show it or admit yourself to be a liar.


1,211 posted on 12/24/2022 12:17:24 AM PST by SouthernClaire (And though after my skin worms destroy this body, yet in my flesh shall I see God ~ Job)
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To: Philsworld

While you’re at it, prove I commit lawlessness. If you can’t, admit you’re a lying liar.


1,212 posted on 12/24/2022 12:18:21 AM PST by SouthernClaire (And though after my skin worms destroy this body, yet in my flesh shall I see God ~ Job)
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To: SouthernClaire

OSAS/OJAJ by definition is lawlessness. You cannot sin. You are not under God’s authority.


1,213 posted on 12/24/2022 12:23:46 AM PST by Philsworld
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To: SouthernClaire

Pork muncher?

Sabbath commandment hater.


1,214 posted on 12/24/2022 12:24:45 AM PST by Philsworld
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To: Philsworld

I am not only under His authority, I’m a part of His family as a member of the Body of Christ.

I don’t try to claim it by stealing from Israel, either. I’m not a liar nor a thief.

Prove your claims that I’m a teacher of lawlessness and that I commit lawlessness or ping the moderator to remove them for being lies.


1,215 posted on 12/24/2022 12:26:24 AM PST by SouthernClaire (And though after my skin worms destroy this body, yet in my flesh shall I see God ~ Job)
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To: SouthernClaire

——>I am not only under His authority, I’m a part of His family as a member of the Body of Christ.

Not if you are in open rebellion to His law.


1,216 posted on 12/24/2022 12:28:19 AM PST by Philsworld
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To: Philsworld

Since you can’t prove your lies, it’s apparent exactly what you are.

I’ve scraped better from the bottom of my shoe.


1,217 posted on 12/24/2022 12:32:52 AM PST by SouthernClaire (And though after my skin worms destroy this body, yet in my flesh shall I see God ~ Job)
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To: Philsworld

You can thank your lawless, oyster-eating cult leader for goading you into hell.


1,218 posted on 12/24/2022 12:34:33 AM PST by SouthernClaire (And though after my skin worms destroy this body, yet in my flesh shall I see God ~ Job)
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To: SouthernClaire

——>Prove your claims that I’m a teacher of lawlessness and that I commit lawlessness

I just did.

——>or ping the moderator to remove them for being lies.

That would include any post mentioning OSAS/OJAJ/PTR as being truth...all repeated lies of Satan.


1,219 posted on 12/24/2022 12:35:55 AM PST by Philsworld
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To: SouthernClaire

——>Since you can’t prove your lies

I just did.


1,220 posted on 12/24/2022 12:36:49 AM PST by Philsworld
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