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Popular Protestant YouTube host announces decision to convert to Catholicism
Catholic News Agency.com ^ | 11.17.22 | Joe Bukuras

Posted on 11/19/2022 4:37:14 PM PST by MurphsLaw

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To: metmom

“Heck, we’re not even to play favorites with others here on earth, much less “gods”.”

Outstanding point!

“Mary being a virgin as expected does not set her apart as being any more special or virtuous than the vast majority of women in those days.”

You are so right, to compare the 21st century to the 1st century is uterly reduclas at best.


601 posted on 12/16/2022 7:25:26 PM PST by mrobisr (Romans 10:9-10, yes it is that simple!)
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To: MurphsLaw; metmom

And so does thou shall worship and SERVE the Lord God only.

Matthew 4:10
Then Jesus saith to him: Begone, Satan: for it is written, The Lord thy God shalt thou adore, and him only shalt thou serve.

Exodus 23:25
25 And you shall serve the Lord your God, that I may bless your bread and your waters, and may take away sickness from the midst of thee.

Greek doulia equals Latin servitus (service)
Oh by the way bowing down is also considered as worship according to Jesus and satan.

Matthew 4:9
And said to him: All these will I give thee, if falling down thou wilt adore me.

So tell me the difference.
rcc’s pray to Mary and their god
rcc’s bow to Mary and their god
rcc’s kneel to Mary and their god
rcc’s offer sacrifice to Mary and their god
rcc’s serve Mary and their god
rcc’s get grace from Mary and from their god

So through all the rc word games of “we only worship God” you do indeed offer service and worship to Mary therefore our Holy Lord and His Holy Word condemns this practice.

Repent of this abomination and accept Jesus Christ as your personal Savior accepting that you are saved by His glorious grace through faith in Him alone.

“It is... a mystery for sure.”
5and on her forehead a name was written, a mystery: “BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF PROSTITUTES AND OF THE ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.”
Only to you romans, but hey smile you will see what the mystery really is soon enough.


602 posted on 12/16/2022 7:44:35 PM PST by mrobisr (Romans 10:9-10, yes it is that simple!)
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To: mrobisr

“THEOTOKOS”

While Jesus is God in the flesh your simplified answer doesn’t make the truth that simple.

1. Holy Scripture never calls Mary mother of God.
2. Can God die? No He is eternal, Isaiah 40:28 and many others
3. Can or did Jesus die? Yes,1 Cor 15:3
4. Is belief in God alone enough to save your soul? No, John 14:6
Now if your answer was as simple as you implied the answer should be yes, but it’s not.
Mary is not part of the Godhead therefore she is NOT the mother of God. Calling her such would imply her as superior to God because the parent is always before the child and that just isn’t the truth of the Gospel.

Question: “Is Mary the mother of God (Theotokos)?”

Answer: The phrase “mother of God” originated with and continues to be used in the Roman Catholic Church. One of the topics at the Council of Ephesus in AD 431 was the use of the Greek term Theotókos, or “God-bearer,” in reference to Mary. That council officially proclaimed Mary as the “mother of God,” and the doctrine was later included in the Catholic catechism. The idea behind calling Mary the “mother of God” is that, since Jesus is God and Mary is the mother of Jesus, she is the mother of God.

The major problem with this logic is that the term “God” implies the totality of Yahweh, and we know that Yahweh has no beginning and no end (Psalm 90:2). First Timothy 6:15-16 says that God is immortal. Being immortal, God never was “born” and never had a “mother.” The second Person of the Trinity, Jesus, did have a beginning to His earthly ministry when he was conceived in Mary’s womb and was born, but from eternity past He had always been the Son of God.

Philippians 2:6–7 gives us a bit more insight on what transpired when Jesus left heaven to become man. The New Living Translation says, “Though he was God, he did not think of equality with God as something to cling to. Instead, he gave up his divine privileges; he took the humble position of a slave and was born as a human being.” Jesus was already one with the Father, but He set aside His rights as Divinity and took the form of a baby (John 1:1). He went on to live the normal life of a Jewish boy, obeying His earthly parents (Luke 2:51).

A mother by definition precedes her child and at some point is more powerful than her child. So to call Mary the “mother of God” gives the misleading implication that Mary preceded and at one time was more powerful than the Lord God Almighty. Although Catholic doctrine tries to deny this implication, it is inescapable.

It is biblical to say that Mary was the mother of the Lord Jesus Christ during His incarnation on the earth. However, Catholics believe it is not enough to say that Mary was the mother of Jesus. Pope John Paul II, in a speech in 1996, encouraged people “not only to invoke the Blessed Virgin as the Mother of Jesus, but also to recognize her as Mother of God” (L’Osservatore Romano, 4 December 1996, p. 11). This is not biblical. The Lord God Almighty has no mother, since He has no beginning and no end (Genesis 1:1; Revelation 4:8).
https://www.gotquestions.org/Mary-mother-God-theotokos.html


603 posted on 12/16/2022 7:49:24 PM PST by mrobisr (Romans 10:9-10, yes it is that simple!)
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To: mrobisr

Heck, it says in Exodus 20:4-5 You shall not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. You shall not bow down to them or serve them,……

And all the carved images standing in the front of most Catholic churches that people light candles to and bow down in prayer before, violate this commandment.

For all the hair splitting about definitions of worship and latria, etc, bowing down is bowing down and clearly and plainly seen by the most casual observer. No speculation or rationalizations about whether you are “worshipping” or simply honoring someone, no questions or rationalizations about what is in one’s heart.

Graven images are graven images and bowing down is bowing down.

But considering this is from the same religion that demands its priests be addressed as “Father” in light of Matthew 23 where Jesus says…..” And call no man your father on earth, for you have one Father, who is in heaven.” and engage in Olympic class rationalizations about why it’s OK to disobey a clear, concise command of Jesus like that one, nothing surprises me.


604 posted on 12/16/2022 7:55:32 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith…)
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To: MurphsLaw; metmom

“Then whom do you feel God is referring to?”

Genesis 3:15
I will put enmities between thee and the woman, and thy seed and her seed: she shall crush thy head, and thou shalt lie in wait for her heel.

“thee and the woman”
Satan and Eve, read Genesis chapter 3 the characters are all present, the tempter (Satan), the sinner (Eve), and the transgressor (Adam).

“thy seed and her seed”

Antichrist and Lord Jesus Christ

“And I will put enmity Between you and the woman, And between your seed and her seed; He shall bruise you on the head, And you shall bruise him on the heel.”

Eve, the first sinner will crush Satan’s head through our Lord Jesus Christ by child bearing, 1 Timothy 2:15 and Satan will hurt our Lord Jesus through crucifixion, but only for three days.

Oh, and the pope will be the false prophet and the roman church is the mystery Babylon whore of Revelation.


605 posted on 12/16/2022 8:19:31 PM PST by mrobisr (Romans 10:9-10, yes it is that simple!)
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To: metmom

“Graven images are graven images and bowing down is bowing down.”

I keep asking the question, what is the difference, but not one of the pagans idol worshippers can tell me the difference confirming your comments exactly.


606 posted on 12/16/2022 8:27:20 PM PST by mrobisr (Romans 10:9-10, yes it is that simple!)
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To: mrobisr
Our lady of Guadalupe
Hand maid of the LORD
The mother of my Lord
Made-up word but ok, THEOTOKOS


So you understand- Our Lady of Guadalupe is not something the Blessed Virgin has bestowed upon herself-
It comes from those who adore her -
So while that title- and her many other titles may be attached to the Church "ambience" - they remain only that- just titles for those who identify with how Mary exists in their faith life for them.
Obviously I wouldnt in my part of the U.S. venerate her as "my" My Lady of Guadalupe"
Now yes in Texas they would and of course Mexico.
It is odd you would be indifferent 5though, to the history of converting millions of people to Christ in a continent that was always purely Pagan, fixated on human sacrifice.
The question for you would be- would you rather choose not to believe Guadalupe happened ? - and that Mexico and S.A. remained pagan for millions of souls, forever non- Christian?

Equally odd about your list- is that as you rant on about things "not in the bible"- at the same time your list omitted (purposefully?) Mary's very scriptural title of Handmaid of the Lord- as SHE titled of herself.. in Luke- Which we read EVERY year at Advent in the infancy narrative.
(Which just so happens to be TODAYS ! Mass Gospel reading...
In fact in Luke- this is where the custom of titling Mary with different roles or names actually starts.
And "handmaid of the Lord"... well obviously that is not a title to decrbe her life's entirety? is it ?
After all- as a common Jewish girl, having many other children- bsons and daughers... the purpose of her life was not just about being a "handmaid"...
So you can see ho titles describing certain aspects can come about this way. Elizabeth calling Mary "The Mother of My Lord" is another title - also found in scripture that you should add to the list for accuracy - is another way this comes about...

Mary IS something to everyone... you just have to let her in.


607 posted on 12/20/2022 5:29:30 AM PST by MurphsLaw ("Put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil." )
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To: mrobisr
“thee and the woman” Satan and Eve, read Genesis chapter 3 the characters are all present, the tempter (Satan), the sinner (Eve), and the transgressor (Adam).

Well Cain is also the seed of Eve…
And we know well there was no enmity between Cain and the serpent…
just ask Abel….
so that’s really too general of an interpretation…
to have Eve as the woman… whose name was then made to be “Mother of all living”
But if that’s your interpretation than it suffices for you…

But since it is undefined… and the Bibke cannot give us the answer…
Then no one can say - beyond a doubt - who the Woman is being referred to…


608 posted on 12/21/2022 8:56:52 PM PST by MurphsLaw ("Put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil." )
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To: MurphsLaw

The answer to your first question that ends the paragraph is a RESOUNDING YES.

The Church doctrine is contained in the prayer known as “The Apostles’ Creed.”

For me, as a Catholic, that encompasses what the Church teaches and as a member all of that is what I believe.

Man made laws, opinions, declarations, additions ...are not absolute. Popes come and go...Men come and go, but the basic Church shall not change. Soon we shall have a Pope who believes as I do, probably from Africa, which is great, they seem to be the closest of Catholic teachings at this time.

Regards and Merry Christmas to you and yours.


609 posted on 12/21/2022 9:18:41 PM PST by Maris Crane ( )
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To: metmom
And all the carved images standing in the front of most Catholic churches that people light candles to and bow down in prayer before, violate this commandment.

We pray to Mary to intercede for us, to pray for us, through the Grace of her son,
“ Pray for us sinners, NOW and at the end of our lives”
Although the misguided think she is being worshipped… No, we are asking her for help, to hear our petition, THROUGH CHRIST, Our Lord…. nothing more nefarious than that…
As a Catholic, you should know we need all the prayers we can get ….

Now about the “carved images in front of most Catholic Churches…
Michaelangelo carved “La Pieta” - the beautiful sculpture of Mary cradling the crucified Christ in her lap- that sits at the front of St. Peter’s Basillica in Rome-
certainly THAT sculpture is not something you consider or call “graven” -or a violation against God…
Would You?


610 posted on 12/21/2022 9:19:24 PM PST by MurphsLaw ("Put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil." )
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To: Maris Crane
I wish more Catholics shared your mindset !
The Divine Nature of Christ's Church has shined for 2000 years.
The human Nature of the Church- entrusted to help spread and Guide The Word...
can, and has been, quite flawed from time to time.
If Christ promised the Gates of Hell would not prevail against her...
I kinda doubt that morally weak, sinful clergy- from the top all the way down -
would prevail either- try as they might...

In God We Trust.

Thank You for sharing that with your reply...
Have a Merry Christmas as well !!1

611 posted on 12/23/2022 9:20:41 AM PST by MurphsLaw ("Put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil." )
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To: daniel1212

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612 posted on 10/06/2023 6:50:25 AM PDT by daniel1212 (As a damned+destitute sinner turn 2 the Lord Jesus who saves souls on His acct + b baptized 2 obey H)
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