Posted on 09/27/2022 6:27:33 PM PDT by marshmallow
Former president says material ‘offends all women and the creator who made them’
Former president Mary McAleese has called on Pope Francis to remove “awful material” from a Vatican website set up in 2016 which she said “offends all women and the creator who made them”.
The document, which blames all human ills on women, including the death of Jesus Christ, appears on the website of the Dicastery (Department) for the Laity, the Family and Life. It appears in English, French and Italian, but not in Spanish or Portuguese translations.
Written by Tertullian, one of the early church fathers who died almost 2,000 years ago in 230AD, it addresses women as “the devil’s gateway: you are the unsealer of that [forbidden] tree: you are the first deserter of the divine law: you are she who persuaded him whom the devil was not valiant enough to attack. You destroyed so easily God’s image, man. On account of your desert – that is, death – even the Son of God had to die.”
On September 6th, Mrs McAleese wrote to Pope Francis seeking “urgent clarification of offensive sexist material published by the Discastery for Laity, the Family and Life”.
Addressing Pope Francis directly, she said: “So here we are at the start of the implementation of your great curial reform and it absolutely beggars belief that the worst-ever offensive sexist material is published with unambiguous approval by the Dicastery for the Laity‚ Family and Life… a dicastery you charged with responsibility for women.”
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Please post the name of Tertullian’s document.
Adam got up one warm Spring morning and looked forward to a delicious apple-free breakfast of pancakes, maple syrup, and eggnog.
Then, to his surprise, Eve rushed towards him with an apple.
va va voom?
I guess so, we are here are we not?
:-)
Sure. It’s not like she had any competition. ;-)
my guess?
she still wouldn’t.
she was a walking traffic accident... waiting to happen.
my guess is we will see her one day... and we will actually “get it”... yes, she was that woman.
God makes it very clear in Scripture that the responsibility for sin entering the world is because of Adam.
Romans 5 addresses that.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans%205&version=ESV
The “bad teacher” in this case was Adam’s own conscience, wherein he defies God. He didn’t even hear the serpent’s words, and still did what he did.
Furthermore, take note of how Adam tries to put the blame on Eve rather than taking responsibility.
Yes.
No.
No.
Eve did not lie to Adam, Adam stood there and watched the snake sell his wife a line of goods and did nothing. Eve was his sacrificial penguin. When she ate and did not die right away he thought he was good to go.
And when God confronted him about it Adam blamed God.
These was a reason Eve got a curse and a promise and Adam got only a curse.
I did take note of it. I also took note of the fact that Adam didn't grab a piece of fruit on his own, he took what Eve gave him.
Eve may not have said a word, but the act of giving someone something carries an implicit assurance that "it's OK". Adam's job as head, at that point, was to tell her "NO". He didn't do that. And that's (again) the context of the passage in 1 Timothy: deciding who has the authority to teach.
IMO.
YMMV
IANTP
How he got the fruit really had no bearing on the state of mind he cultivated within himself that resulted in his wantin to eat it. The Bible puts the blame on him in Isaiah, and as Deuteronomy 24:16 and Jeremiah 31:30 say, every man dies for his own sin.
I certainly agree that it was sinful for him to accept the fruit and eat it, just as it was sinful for Eve to take it and eat it.
There’s a lot going on in that brief few verses in Genesis. Both of them sinned, in what they did and what they failed to do. There’s much to learn, to apply to our own lives, regarding what WE do and what WE fail to do.
Thank you.
To your point, this photo of McAleese enjoying herself is not photoshopped:
And it is not enough to be sinless (as an infant also is) in order to be the perfect atonement, but one must also be righteous, passing the test of the desire of the flesh, and of possessions, and of prestige/pride, all of which Eve sinned in, (Genesis 3:6) while Christ did not, (Matthew 4:1-11)
For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin. Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need. (Hebrews 4:15-16) Thanks be to God.
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