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To: MHGinTN

Well, it would be a wonderful thing if it happens as you say it will. But unfortunately, due to life’s observations and past experiences.. I have become something of a pessimist.

I would feel optimistic about the future...if only the Bible actually stated that there would be a pre-trib rapture of we non-Jewish Christians. I haven’t found that assurance anywhere and trust me, I’ve looked.

I have several family members that fervently believe in this pre-trib rapture. My biggest fear is that if/when that rescue rapture doesn’t happen and they start to have to suffer....they might lose their faith and end up ‘not saved’.

I shell attempt to think more positively. We Christians are all on Team Jesus and yes, if it happens as you say it will,

see you in the clouds! God bless.


122 posted on 04/23/2022 7:26:24 PM PDT by XenaLee
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To: XenaLee
My biggest fear is that if/when that rescue rapture doesn’t happen and they start to have to suffer....they might lose their faith and end up ‘not saved’.

Many share that fear.

123 posted on 04/23/2022 7:35:25 PM PDT by who knows what evil? (Yehovah saved more animals than people on the ark...siameserescue.org)
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To: XenaLee

I am a OSAS person. I have reached the stage if Bible studies where I have absolutely no doubts that a perwson once born again is in God’s hands and not even that person can wriggle out from His grasp. What Grace is it that would be given knowing that one would eventually do something God did not foresee so He would let go of them? No, God sees the end from the beginning and He doesn’t leave me to have to earn the retention of His Grace. The miraculous reality is that He is taking responsibility for my redemption, not requiring me to achieve what I obviously could not before I believed. I am heaven bound because of what HE did, not what I may or may not do.


124 posted on 04/23/2022 7:37:20 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: XenaLee
I have several family members that fervently believe in this pre-trib rapture.
My biggest fear is that if/when that rescue rapture doesn’t happen and they start to have to suffer...


So that's what this man-made Gospel is all about then for some?
A guaranteed way to avoid suffering?
A pain-free ticket to ride to the pearly gates?
We just went through the Crucifixion...
and redemptive suffering is somehow a forgotten concept to self-proclaimed Christians?
To be smoothed over with fanciful ideas on how to get to Heaven- without undergoing a participation in Christ's sacrifice?

If anyone thinks meeting the gaze of the Almighty God in the end is gonna be all fluffy clouds, rainbows and unicorns...
you're gonna be in for a surprise...(C.S.L.)

Romans 8
15 For you did not receive the spirit of slavery to fall back into fear, but you have received the spirit of sonship. When we cry, “Abba! Father!” 
16 it is the Spirit himself bearing witness with our spirit that we are children of God, 
17 and if children, then heirs, heirs of God and fellow heirs with Christ, provided we suffer with him in order that we may also be glorified with him.

1 Peter 2
19 For one is approved if, mindful of God, he endures pain while suffering unjustly. 
20 For what credit is it, if when you do wrong and are beaten for it you take it patiently? But if when you do right and suffer for it you take it patiently, you have God’s approval.
 21 For to this you have been called, because Christ also suffered for you, leaving you an example, that you should follow in his steps. 

Colossians 1:24-26
“Now I rejoice in my sufferings for your sake, and in my flesh I complete what is lacking in Christ’s afflictions for the sake of his body, that is, the church,
of which I became a minister according to the divine office which was given to me for you, to make the word of God fully known, the mystery hidden for ages and generations but now made manifest to his saints.”


130 posted on 04/23/2022 9:38:05 PM PDT by MurphsLaw (Why do you call me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ and do not do what I tell you? )
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To: XenaLee

“My biggest fear is that if/when that rescue rapture doesn’t happen and they start to have to suffer....they might lose their faith and end up ‘not saved’.”

Never fear, God will be with you and your family.

Think of the recent 20 Coptic Christians whose necks were sliced but they did not give up God. Or Asia Bibi in Pakistan who refused converting to Islam to save herself.

You and your family will come through.

Psalm 22

24
For he has not despised or disdained the suffering of the afflicted one; he has not hidden his face from him but has listened to his cry for help.
25
From you comes the theme of my praise in the great assembly; before those who fear you [5] will I fulfill my vows.
26
The poor will eat and be satisfied; they who seek the LORD will praise him— may your hearts live forever!
27
All the ends of the earth will remember and turn to the LORD, and all the families of the nations will bow down before him,
28
for dominion belongs to the LORD and he rules over the nations.

And psalm 23

23 The Lord is my shepherd; I shall not want.

2 He maketh me to lie down in green pastures: he leadeth me beside the still waters.

3 He restoreth my soul: he leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for his name’s sake


496 posted on 05/10/2022 7:30:54 AM PDT by Cronos
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