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To: Jim W N
Who said that Mary was totally depraved?

I thought it was you; something about “a sinner like everyone else” AKA Total Depravity Calvinist doctrine

which is why I asked
And your “goddess” question is irrelevant and deflective. Nobody said anything about Mary being a goddess unless that’s what the Catholics think.

It is relevant because you claimed “worshipping Mary IS idol worship” and I explained that is not what Catholics think. Catholics think Jesus gave Mary as their mother too because they, like John, are disciples whom Jesus loves. They honor and love her in communion with Jesus and all the saints. Neither Catholicism nor Orthodoxy teach “worshiping Mary” hence one reasonable concern was that you do see Mary as a goddess because idol worship is the worship of a false god/goddess.
88 posted on 03/07/2022 11:58:45 AM PST by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began)
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To: af_vet_1981; Jim W N
I thought it was you; something about “a sinner like everyone else” AKA Total Depravity Calvinist doctrine

How is recognizing that people are sinners like all men are, equivalent to Calvin's doctrine of the total depravity of men.

You sound like Calvin is living rent free in your head if that is the first connection you make to a general statement.

Do you deny Scripture?

Romans 3:21-25 But now the righteousness of God has been manifested apart from the law, although the Law and the Prophets bear witness to it— the righteousness of God through faith in Jesus Christ for all who believe. For there is no distinction: for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and are justified by his grace as a gift, through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus, whom God put forward as a propitiation by his blood, to be received by faith.

90 posted on 03/07/2022 12:05:47 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith…)
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