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To: Philsworld
That is certainly NOT what the bible teaches.

It isn't??? Doesn't your Bible have this:

Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ! By His great mercy He has given us new birth into a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, and into an inheritance that is imperishable, undefiled, and unfading, reserved in heaven for you, who through faith are shielded by God’s power for the salvation that is ready to be revealed in the last time. (I Peter 1:3-5)

Remind the believers to submit to rulers and authorities, to be obedient and ready for every good work, to malign no one, and to be peaceable and gentle, showing full consideration to everyone. For at one time we too were foolish, disobedient, misled, and enslaved to all sorts of desires and pleasures—living in malice and envy, being hated and hating one another. But when the kindness of God our Savior and His love for mankind appeared, He saved us, not by the righteous deeds we had done, but according to His mercy, through the washing of new birth and renewal by the Holy Spirit. This is the Spirit He poured out on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Savior, so that, having been justified by His grace, we would become heirs with the hope of eternal life. This saying is trustworthy. And I want you to emphasize these things, so that those who have believed God will take care to devote themselves to good deeds. These things are excellent and profitable for the people. (Titus 3:1-8)

Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in Christ with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly realms. For He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world to be holy and blameless in His presence. In love He predestined us for adoption as His sons through Jesus Christ, according to the good pleasure of His will, to the praise of His glorious grace, which He has freely given us in the Beloved One. In Him we have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of our trespasses, according to the riches of His grace that He lavished on us with all wisdom and understanding. And He has made known to us the mystery of His will according to His good pleasure, which He purposed in Christ as a plan for the fullness of time, to bring all things in heaven and on earth together in Christ. In Him we were also chosen as God’s own, having been predestined according to the plan of Him who works out everything by the counsel of His will, in order that we, who were the first to hope in Christ, would be for the praise of His glory. And in Him, having heard and believed the word of truth—the gospel of your salvation—you were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit, who is the pledge of our inheritance until the redemption of those who are God’s possession, to the praise of His glory. (Ephesians 1:3-14)

And, finally, especially for you:

But avoid foolish controversies, genealogies, arguments, and quarrels about the law, because these things are pointless and worthless. Reject a divisive man after a first and second admonition, knowing that such a man is corrupt and sinful; he is self-condemned. (Titus 3:9-11)

1,552 posted on 04/03/2022 5:34:15 PM PDT by boatbums (Lord, make my life a testimony to the value of knowing you.)
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To: boatbums

And, finally, especially for you:

But avoid foolish controversies, genealogies, arguments, and quarrels about the law, because these things are pointless and worthless. Reject a divisive man after a first and second admonition, knowing that such a man is corrupt and sinful; he is self-condemned. (Titus 3:9-11)


The key words here are “foolish, pointless, and worthless” Discussing the false doctrine of OSAS is neither one of those descriptors. It actually will decide the salvation of countless Christians. Paul goes to great lengths to warn us against continued, willful sin AFTER GRACE. Christ, in Revelation, LITERALLY, brings up that doctrine, that of the Nicolaitans, in Rev 2.

You and your friends teach this doctrine as Gospel. That is the furthest thing from the truth. There is no such thing as OSAS. Any Christian who thinks there is, and THEN continues in sin after Grace, in an unrepentant state, will not be in heaven, no matter what you say....you contradict the CLEAR language and meaning of the bible. Posts 1510-1514 should be enough for anyone to deny OSAS. But, there is much more in that second video I posted, that any one of you could have watched and reported back on. Why don’t you be the first (as far as I know)?

https://youtu.be/mZslH-Ar2Rw


1,555 posted on 04/03/2022 6:08:08 PM PDT by Philsworld
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To: boatbums; Elsie
But avoid foolish controversies, genealogies, arguments, and quarrels about the law, because these things are pointless and worthless. Reject a divisive man after a first and second admonition, knowing that such a man is corrupt and sinful; he is self-condemned. (Titus 3:9-11)

I agree BB, but does it also apply to someone who has been admonished 47 million times, even though Elsie told me a billion times, not to exaggerate. 😀🤗

1,561 posted on 04/03/2022 6:24:23 PM PDT by Mark17 (Retired USAF air traffic controller. Father of a USAF pilot. USAF aviation runs in the family )
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