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To: af_vet_1981
You are here accusing me of wrongfully interpreting (not translating) the meaning of what was behind Simon Bar Jonah's proclamation, "Thou art the Christ, the son of the living God," to which in Post #1269 I noted that he was not speaking from the heart,and went on to demonstrate that it was put on his lips by God, the Father of Jesus, as an instance of Special Revelation, not from Simon's flesh-and-blood heart in either plain-literal terms or in figurative terms, which was said to be the case by Jesus (whose true magnficence as Messiah Simon really did not/could not yet perceive, though his lips spoke of it).

But in your Post #1283 reply to my #1268 you contradict what I said, and in your total lack of perspicacity called forth Romans 10:10-11, thinking that it supported your interpretation of the Matthew 16:16, that Simon was speaking from his heart.

In fact, the Romans 10:6-11 proves beyond the shadow of a doubt that at that time, Simon was not saved, not speaking what he believed in his heart, because we can see from Matthew 16:20-21 that he not only rejected Jesus' disclosure that He would be killed, then raised from the dead, but remonstrated with the Satanic impulse in his heart that should NOT happen to Jesus. Simon was rebuking Jesus for His prediction, trying to dissuade Him from going down that path, which is exactly what he, Satan, would urge Simon to do. The last thing ever that Satan wanted was for Jesus, the innocent Lamb of God, by His substitutionary Cross-death to take away the sin of the world.

Apparently you have no studied skill in applying hermeneutics--the science of interpretation--and here in your Post #1403 you are again denying the thesis of my interpretation (which is in agreement with the Romans 10 passage, that Peter did profess what The Father put on his lips, but did NOT believe that Jesus was giving them prophetic truth that He was to be raised from the dead. In his remonstration of the /master, Simon was essentially calling Jesus a liar, that such an event was NOT to take place.

For you in your naive lack of even any foresight on what the consequences would be by the introduction of the Romans passage to see that the whole of it shows your opinion to be false and mine correct, that has caused you to stumble logically and fall in your undeserved negative criticism of what it took me a lot of time to research, get lined up with Biblical doctrine, and post.

You need to take more pains to check out the sense of your illogical opinions, my FRiend. That is, if you want anyone to think that your comments are credible, not merely hare-brained as is your post here in #1403.

1,410 posted on 04/02/2022 8:06:58 AM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: imardmd1
    As I previously wrote, and shall now write again and enhance:
  1. The Messiah did not say the Father "put the words in Simon's mind and lips. (which is your private interpretation) " but rather that the Father revealed it to him (ἀποκαλύπτω Definition: to uncover, reveal).
  2. There is nothing in the scriptural text about "putting words in Simon's mind and lips." Neither was there anything in the text about "putting words in Balaam's ass's mind and lips."
  3. And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.
  4. And the LORD opened the mouth of the ass, and she said unto Balaam, What have I done unto thee, that thou hast smitten me these three times? [29] And Balaam said unto the ass, Because thou hast mocked me: I would there were a sword in mine hand, for now would I kill thee. [30] And the ass said unto Balaam, Am not I thine ass, upon which thou hast ridden ever since I was thine unto this day? was I ever wont to do so unto thee? And he said, Nay. [31] Then the LORD opened the eyes of Balaam, and he saw the angel of the LORD standing in the way, and his sword drawn in his hand: and he bowed down his head, and fell flat on his face.
  5. Simon Peter spoke from his heart in response to the LORD revealing the truth about Jesus. This would not prevent him from sinning again and needing to be forgiven, but the idea that he was not saved is preposterous. For example, before this passage we have:
  6. 27 But straightway Jesus spake unto them, saying, Be of good cheer; it is I; be not afraid. 28 And Peter answered him and said, Lord, if it be thou, bid me come unto thee on the water. 29 And he said, Come. And when Peter was come down out of the ship, he walked on the water, to go to Jesus. 30 But when he saw the wind boisterous, he was afraid; and beginning to sink, he cried, saying, Lord, save me. 31 And immediately Jesus stretched forth his hand, and caught him, and said unto him, O thou of little faith, wherefore didst thou doubt?

1,489 posted on 04/02/2022 7:48:05 PM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began)
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