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Lee Strobel's 'The Case for Heaven: A Journalist Investigates Evidence for Life After Death,"' Presents a Christian View of Death
Frontpage Mag ^ | 03/04/2022 | Danusha V. Goska

Posted on 03/05/2022 9:46:27 PM PST by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 03/05/2022 9:46:27 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

BFL


2 posted on 03/05/2022 10:07:47 PM PST by fidelis (Ecce Crucem Domi/i><p>! Fugite partes adversae! Vicit Leo de tribu Juda, Radix David! Alleluia! )
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To: SeekAndFind

Thanks for the post.


3 posted on 03/05/2022 10:18:09 PM PST by Inyo-Mono
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To: SeekAndFind

I am pretty sure I will die.

Certainly it is possible I will be virtualized, or even reincarnated

But certainly a random reporter got it right.


4 posted on 03/05/2022 10:26:50 PM PST by algore
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To: SeekAndFind
One NDE involves an experiencer who reported a sticker on the top side of a ceiling fan blade, a sticker not visible from below. Another experiencer reported a sneaker she'd seen on a window ledge. An investigator checked and found the shoe as described. There are other accounts of experiencers reporting accurate information gathered while they were dead or near death.

And there are no doubt also many, many more instances of experiencers providing inaccurate information or ludicrous narratives about the supposed afterlife.

"...and then I was led into a giant hall, and was introduced to the Ruler of the Universe. And it was BOZO THE CLOWN!"

But we aren't told about those accounts... those accounts don't make it into the Sunday supplements... because they don't support the established narratives / don't help sell newspapers / don't make good click-bait.

Regards,

5 posted on 03/05/2022 10:36:58 PM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: SeekAndFind

India is not happy with those 200M untouchables converting to Christanity. I have to conclude it is the same with the Jewish faithful watching Christians try to take away “their God” by way of Jesus.

Fascinating.


6 posted on 03/05/2022 11:07:54 PM PST by Jumper
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To: spirited irish

ping


7 posted on 03/05/2022 11:45:19 PM PST by spirited irish ( )
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To: SeekAndFind

I was excited to buy this book because I liked the “Case For Christ” so much. This one was very disappointing. Just not enough evidence. Instead lots of opinions from theologians and philosophers and a lot of scripture.


8 posted on 03/06/2022 12:03:25 AM PST by Beernoser
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To: SeekAndFind

This is a relatively broad based comprehensive examination of death and Heaven. It covers many perspectives with little judgement. It’s pretty good.

I’ve had my own NDE in the late 1980’s, crossed over into Heaven, and returned to this physical body, RELUCTANTLY. (reluctantly is an understatement).

First, allow me to say that as a result of that experience, I am a Christian who accepts Jesus as my Savior and accept the New Testament Bible as the inspired word of God. However, much of it is misunderstood and misinterpreted.

As a result of 30+ years of study and continued experiences, I am also a Hindu, a Buddhist, a Moslem, and see the truth in most religions.

Religion(s) are merely theories and philosophies of the anatomy and physiology of the human soul and how it interacts with its environment. They are for the most part correct, but incomplete.

I came back from Heaven with a very unusual ability. Consciousness itself and the stored memories in the souls of other people are physical to my perception. I read people’s souls in detail. I might add that this is an awareness, but not a judgement.

Thus, I physically observe the anatomy and physiology of the human soul and understand the religions based upon direct observation. They are all teaching how to help your soul grow.

I was a university professor and business executive when I died. The experience was so profound that there has not been a day since that I have not desired, often begging in tears for God to allow me to return to His full Love. It truly is bliss beyond words of description and more addictive than any drug could possible be.

I left my teaching position at the university, picked up a degree in psychology (which is pretty much worthless) and went on to study neuroscience for the last twenty years.

Most of the people mentioned in the article relating to NDE’s I know personally and many I consider friends.

The soul has a very complex anatomy and physiology, even more complex than the physical body it creates. It has two aspects of consciousness at its lowest level, masculine and feminine, that spin in opposite directions. Memories are stored in the soul at the intersection of the two aspects of consciousness as holograms in reverse sequence going outward from the physical body.

If I walk about fifteen feet from a person and reach out, I am touching the stored memories of conception. As I walk toward the person, next are the memories of the experiences while in their mother’s womb. Then early childhood, then teen memories and so on through current time.

These are the same stored memories in the soul that are experienced as a life review when a person dies. This perception is caused by a person’s conscious awareness expanding outward through these same memories that are physical to me. It’s also the experience generating the phrase “My life passed before my eyes.”

I define “sin” as any memory that creates an obstacle to Love in a person’s soul. Love is the glue that holds the soul together and without it the soul has difficulty growing.

When Jesus said “Love God”, He was telling people to strive to tune their consciousness to the highest frequency at all times.

I define “God” as any level of consciousness that exists above the level I am at. This definition is used to maintain humility as in actual experience, everyone becomes aware that they become “One with Our Father” as Jesus stated. That is Heaven.

There are many levels of consciousness, each with its own frequency and reality. Jesus is here right now. We exist in Him. All we need to do is tune our consciousness to His frequency. The same is true of the higher levels of Heaven. Read John 14 where Jesus explains that He is in the Father and the Father is in Him. And further down He states that if He is in us (communion), the The Father that is in Him is also in us. This is 100% accurate and it is all physical and material. It just exists at frequencies of consciousness above the channel we are tuned to.

People on earth belong to the “Flat Consciousness Society.” They think that this channel and reality is the only one. They are stuck. Meditation and prayer, along with accepting the Holy Spirit ( which is also physical. I see it as a golden swirling Light of higher consciousness) assist us in removing the obstacles to Love in our soul (sin), that act as anchors and/or ballast to hold us from changing frequencies and therefore channels.

Our perception of reality is a function of the frequency of consciousness from which we view it.

The goal in life in these physical bodies is transcendence. This is where we raise our consciousness frequency to a level that we begin to perceive directly with our consciousness beyond our physical bodies. This is the gamma frequency on EEG’s. This is the born again experience as we begin to explore a whole new reality, similar to what happened at birth.

Death is merely the end of a school year for the soul. The soul is eternal.

My explanations merely scratch the surface of how the soul functions.

PS. For the scientists, like me, I needed proof of what I was perceiving. I found that if I have a person close their eyes, I say nothing, I don’t touch the person’s body, and no taste or smell, I am bypassing all the bodily senses and thus the person’s critical mind as I touch a physical stored memory in a person’s soul many feet from their physical body. Doing this physically moves the person’s body as though I am shoving or pulling them. Trauma often knocks the person off their feet when I merely touch it far from their physical body. These are obstacles to Love in a person’s soul.

If I grab hold of the obstacle to Love and pull it, the person comes toward me like I have a rope tied to them. I then ask them if they desire to forgive the person and themselves, and if they say YES, they fly backward like the rope pulling them forward broke.

PTSD is relatively easy to resolve by healing the stored memory in a person’s soul.

🙏🙏🙏


9 posted on 03/06/2022 12:52:34 AM PST by tired&retired (Blessings )
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When you exit your physical and the profound Light and Love shining down from Heaven touches your soul, you could care less about a sticker on a fan blade.


10 posted on 03/06/2022 1:01:03 AM PST by tired&retired (Blessings )
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To: alexander_busek

A friend of mine is a cardiologist in Denmark. He’s old, and was practicing medicine before the paddles and resuscitation techniques were developed.

In the 1990’s, many of his patients who were resuscitated told him about experiences after they left their physical bodies, while they were dead.

He began a study, interviewing a large sample of resuscitated cardiology patients and found that about 18% of them recalled such an experience.

This study was published in the medical journal Lancet in 2001.

His name is Pim van Lommel.


11 posted on 03/06/2022 1:08:19 AM PST by tired&retired (Blessings )
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To: SeekAndFind

Per the article:

“Anita Moorjani’s bestseller, “Dying To Be Me: My Journey from Cancer, to Near Death, to True Healing,””

I’ve known Anita for many years.

She was an inpatient in a hospital hospice and died of cancer, went to Heaven, and came back cured.

She is of Indian heritage and when she was young, her parents arranged a marriage for her. At the last minute, just before the wedding, she ran away and refused to marry the man bringing great shame to her parents in the Indian community.

While in Heaven, she met her father who had died and he forgave her for what she had done. He explained that he now understood why she did it.

This removed the guilt she was carrying. Consequently, with no guilt, she no longer needed to punish herself through suppression of her immune system. She had no need for the cancer.

The guilt created a huge obstacle to Love in her soul. Guilt is a low frequency heavy consciousness thought. (Sin)

Just as Perfect Love casts out fear, another low frequency dense thought, it casts out guilt, anger,.. ( basically all the things Jesus taught us to heal).

Placing a low frequency thought in the high frequency of Heaven is like placing a dense object in the high frequency of a microwave. It heats up, catches on fire and is transmuted. This is also how/why prayer heals.

This is why Jesus said He is baptizing with fire.

This is why a prayerful blessing to an evil person is like placing hot coals upon their head.

hell is the perception of reality a soul experiences if they hold onto sin and try to approach the high frequency of Heaven. It is a real process.

If I watch a very devout person pray, I see the Light from above connecting to them. If they continue, it radiates from them like a sun shining. If they are radiating and a low frequency consciousness approaches, it looks similar to when a moth flew into one of those old electric bug zapper lights. The fire flares up, smoke and even smell results during the transmutation. This is also the basis for the ring of fire around the Hindu statue of Shiva. (Its actually a sphere as it radiates in all directions.)

This is how Jesus had power over evil spirits as the low frequency consciousness that made them evil could not exist in His high frequency radiating consciousness.

This is exactly what flows through me when I do exorcisms or spirit releasement work. It’s what actually does the work, not me.


12 posted on 03/06/2022 1:39:21 AM PST by tired&retired (Blessings )
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Thank you for your very interesting posts. “And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love.”

I have a 20-something daughter that is going through a lot. She has had troubles for a long time now, and things are getting worse. At least she knows that we love her, in spite of our differences.

The part I have a hard time with is “Love your enemies”. Especially when I see what they are doing to my daughter.


13 posted on 03/06/2022 1:55:22 AM PST by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant. Never Fearful.)
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To: 21twelve

I hear you and resemble that remark.

I do it with higher understanding. Every human has a spark of God that created their soul. That is the sparkle you see in a child’s eyes. I can always love that no matter how deep it is buried or hidden.

That goodness is influenced by evil. Love the child always. But not the behavior.

We discipline a two year old throwing a temper tantrum out of Love for the child. Not anger. It’s sometimes a tough Love to help them be better adults.


14 posted on 03/06/2022 2:11:36 AM PST by tired&retired (Blessings )
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To: 21twelve

I’ve often wondered, “Was Jesus angry when He flipped over the money changers tables or just doing what was necessary to get the desired change in behavior?”


15 posted on 03/06/2022 2:13:33 AM PST by tired&retired (Blessings )
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To: tired&retired
Just thinking out loud here, but isn't anger just amplified frustration (i.e., not necessarily hatred).

The energy of anger (amplified frustration) can be managed and channeled into productive behavior.

16 posted on 03/06/2022 2:24:15 AM PST by RoosterRedux
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I would place them as different levels of intensity of a similar emotion.

Kind of like desire and greed.

But I always reserve the right to be wrong!


17 posted on 03/06/2022 2:26:28 AM PST by tired&retired (Blessings )
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Sometimes the pain of being a victim is externalized as anger as a person takes their power over their will back.

This is good as we must own our emotions to change them. As a victim, someone else is holding our power and we have no authority to change.


18 posted on 03/06/2022 2:29:58 AM PST by tired&retired (Blessings )
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To: tired&retired
Very true. I tend to get angry with myself and that leads to a change in behavior.

Anger at others is misdirected unless you have some power over their behavior (i.e., as a leader...and even then the change has to be inside yourself as to how you are managing them).

19 posted on 03/06/2022 2:34:17 AM PST by RoosterRedux
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To: tired&retired
Here's the link to the article you reference:

https://pimvanlommel.nl/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/NDE-NYAS-Experience-Self-article.pdf

Here the gist of the article:

Our study found that 282 patients (82%) had no recollection of the period of their unconsciousness, whereas 62 patients—18% of the 344 patients—reported an NDE. Of these 62 patients with memories, 21 patients (6%) had some recollection; having experienced only some elements, they had a superficial NDE with a low score. Forty-one patients (12%) reported a core experience: 18 patients had a moderately deep NDE, 17 patients reported a deep NDE, and 6 patients reported a very deep NDE.

Summa summarum: The overwhelming majority of people who undergo "clinical death" experience nothing (or at least have absolutely no recollection of any sort of NDE). And of those who do have some sort of NDE, about a third report only a "superficial" experience.

Further, other studies show that many people who are in no way near death (who are, e.g., merely unconscious for a short time or who are undergoing anaesthesia for a banal surgical operation) also report the EXACT SAME sort of experiences.

We are therefore justified in filing these NDE's together with Bigfoot sightings and the accounts of people who report having had sex with aliens.

Nothing-burger!

Regards,

20 posted on 03/06/2022 2:34:35 AM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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