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Still Time to Care About the Whole Gospel
TruthXchange ^ | 3/2/2022 | Dr. Peter Jones

Posted on 03/02/2022 7:37:57 AM PST by truthxchange

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1 posted on 03/02/2022 7:37:57 AM PST by truthxchange
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2 posted on 03/02/2022 7:53:46 AM PST by raygunfan ( )
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To: truthxchange

TE Johnson is not qualified to be a minster in the PCA.

Hoss


3 posted on 03/02/2022 8:02:46 AM PST by HossB86 (Christ, and Him alone.)
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To: truthxchange

Gay? But celibate?
Get out of here!!!!!


4 posted on 03/02/2022 8:05:01 AM PST by Honest Nigerian
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To: truthxchange

Jesus came to deliver you from sin, not allow you to keep your sin.

Furthermore, he stated quite clearly, it is what proceeds out of the heart that defiles the man, not the mouth.

So sin starts with our unholy desires, not our actions.

This is where deliverance comes starts and it starts with our faith our belief in Jesus being able to do just that, deliver us from all sin.


5 posted on 03/02/2022 8:13:58 AM PST by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: truthxchange

Matthew 19:12
“For there are eunuchs who were born that way; others were made that way by men; and still others live like eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. The one who can accept this should accept it.”


6 posted on 03/02/2022 8:15:09 AM PST by Kevmo (I’m immune from Covid since I don’t watch TV.🤗)
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To: truthxchange

I think, in the past, this was seen very commonly as the path for people who had this “demon”... join the clergy and be celibate as the Bible advises. However, even back in the earliest days of the church there were scandals because many of those who tried to follow that path simply couldn’t resist their urges.

So, my opinion is, if you have these urges and want to be a Christian and celibate, great, more power to you. But maybe leave being a clergyman to someone who isn’t suffering this kind of perverse temptation, because otherwise, the consequences if you fail to live up to your commitment are going to harm the Church instead of just yourself.


7 posted on 03/02/2022 8:19:19 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: truthxchange

Just read a book, Gay Christian,Coles. He came to the conclusion the only way to live a life of Christ with those feelings is celibacy. I understand that.

I don’t know about being in a place of leadership in the church though. I don’t know about rationalizing and bending the Word for their benefit. We used to get high and use I John 1:9 and called Greasy Grace Christians. And that’s what we were.


8 posted on 03/02/2022 8:38:06 AM PST by Karliner (Heb 4:12 Rom 8:28 Rev 3, "...This is the end of the beginning." Churchill)
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To: Kevmo

That scripture is rarely quoted. Jesus speaks to celibacy.


9 posted on 03/02/2022 8:38:52 AM PST by Karliner (Heb 4:12 Rom 8:28 Rev 3, "...This is the end of the beginning." Churchill)
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To: Karliner

And this preacher speaks of celibacy as well. Or did you fail to notice?


10 posted on 03/02/2022 9:06:36 AM PST by Kevmo (I’m immune from Covid since I don’t watch TV.🤗)
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To: Boogieman

Well, frankly, back then being a eunuch meant something far more than the figurative meaning we attach to it.


11 posted on 03/02/2022 9:08:37 AM PST by Kevmo (I’m immune from Covid since I don’t watch TV.🤗)
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To: Kevmo

Yes, but the apostles didn’t advocate actually becoming a eunuch; in fact that was pretty strenuously denounced as it was defiling one’s body, like any other kind of mutilation. They advocated (for some) to “live like eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven”, or to take up that lifestyle without actually getting the surgery.


12 posted on 03/02/2022 10:58:06 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman

The one who can accept this should accept it.

Those were the words of Jesus, not just the apostles.


13 posted on 03/02/2022 11:01:38 AM PST by Kevmo (I’m immune from Covid since I don’t watch TV.🤗)
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To: Karliner

Paul’s letter to Timothy explicitly limits who may be an elder or a deacon.

1 Timothy 3: 2 A bishop [elder] then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;

1 Timothy 3:12 Let the deacons be the husbands of one wife, ruling their children and their own houses well.


14 posted on 03/02/2022 11:05:08 AM PST by NorthStarOkie (You are what you are because that is exactly what you want to be. Marcos Aurelius)
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To: Kevmo

Yes I read it. Did you catch my question regarding such predispositions as a pastor? Then again Catholic priests are celibates so I don’t see the problem but I am curious.


15 posted on 03/02/2022 1:08:48 PM PST by Karliner (Heb 4:12 Rom 8:28 Rev 3, "...This is the end of the beginning." Churchill)
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To: Karliner

Did you catch my question regarding such predispositions as a pastor?
***I don’t see any question in your posts.


16 posted on 03/02/2022 1:12:26 PM PST by Kevmo (I’m immune from Covid since I don’t watch TV.🤗)
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To: Kevmo
I don’t know about rationalizing and bending the Word for their benefit.
17 posted on 03/02/2022 3:16:29 PM PST by Karliner (Heb 4:12 Rom 8:28 Rev 3, "...This is the end of the beginning." Churchill)
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To: Karliner

I don’t know about rationalizing and bending the Word for their benefit.
***That’s not a question, it’s an assertion. And it’s using typical verbal mechanisms such as starting with “I dunno,” but what you really MEAN is “this is how I look at it”. Your claim is that homosexuals rationalize and bend the Word for their benefit. Yup, they do. And so do perhaps MOST of the people in church leadership, many who have had extramarital sex as if the same concepts don’t apply to them. At any rate, I think I agree with your assertion.


18 posted on 03/02/2022 4:29:52 PM PST by Kevmo (I’m immune from Covid since I don’t watch TV.🤗)
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To: Kevmo

It’s true we’re all struggling. It’s why I didn’t put a question mark on that sentence but it’s still a question in my mind.

It’s why I read this article and that book. I have a bundle of questions. I was a greasy grace Christian for years rationalizing I John 1:9, getting drunk and confessing my sins. I know a little about rationalizing and eventually we( or me) come to the end of ourselves and hopefully realize that greasy grace isn’t the good walk.

From what I’ve read in the bible and what I read of late I think celibacy is the right track. I don’t have any homosexual desires but it’s interesting what their struggles are and it must be really really tough.

I have many more questions than answers.


19 posted on 03/02/2022 4:46:42 PM PST by Karliner (Heb 4:12 Rom 8:28 Rev 3, "...This is the end of the beginning." Churchill)
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To: NorthStarOkie

Yes regarding Timothy and other teachings. I fear we’re deep into the lukewarm church of Laodecia. These days reminds me of the repetition in the books of Judges,”And men did what was right in their own eyes.


20 posted on 03/02/2022 4:53:34 PM PST by Karliner (Heb 4:12 Rom 8:28 Rev 3, "...This is the end of the beginning." Churchill)
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