Big tents are for circuses.
Therefore:
Lutheran (EL C S*A) Ping!
* as of August 19, AD 2009, a liberal protestant SECT, not part of the holy, catholic and apostolic CHURCH.
Be rooted in Christ!
The August 19 date refers solely to the adoption of the gaysbian agenda, NOT to the “Full Communion” agreement.
Which means getting rid of all the theological and political liberals, which comprise at least half the clergy and a plurality of the laity. The surgery is going to be very painful, but the longer they wait the more the cancer grows.
I used to attend Hope UMC in Sacramento and it fractured over gay marriage about thirty years ago. This stuff has been happening for a long time and is not a new thing. Not at all.
And what’s really at stake here is US$64 BILLION in property assets that are all held by the denomination and not by the local churches.
http://www.umglobal.org/2020/01/a-primer-on-umc-assets-who-owns-them.html
That’s interesting, as when I did my own split about 30 years ago it seemed that the liberals were running everything. Maybe it’s a matter of degree, back then many were good people who were just left of center, now maybe they’re full-blown nutjobs. Don’t much care anymore.
Methodists are nothing more than Catholics with the same amount of humanism, and less liturgical B.S.
Oh, and Catholics have way cooler costumes....
Let’em split....Progressives should never mix with Conservatives.....
I’m a lay chaplain in my volunteer fire company. My counterpart in our neighboring mutual aid fire company is a retired UMC pastor. He is a typical social liberal, his theological hero is Karl Barth and he thinks I’m a religious kook because I take the words of the Bible seriously. He has a degree and I don’t.
I know that one pastor doesn’t mean the whole group is off track. This pastor has no kind words for the local Wesleyan church which is experiencing big growth and has a Biblical foundation. I see nothing but crash and burn in the UMC.
Because the "Progressives" (as they're called) control the hierarchy, Council of Bishops, and all of the agencies within the denomination, the progressives will KEEP the UMC, called the "Post-Separation United Methodist Church," psUMC. The "traditionalists" will leave and form a new, Wesleyan, traditional denomination which will be the "Global Methodist Church." There's a lot of details and history involved in the coming separation - but I, for one, CAN'T WAIT to be gone from the UMC and join the GMC at its "convening conference." (Date of that is TBD.)
Unfortunately, not. The Protocol for Separation has us, the traditionalists, leaving - despite the fact that every single General Conference vote on this issue for the last 30 years has been for traditional marriage and against LGBTQ values. At this point, as long as the properties and pensions get fairly split, I’ll take it.
As a kid, my best friend’s dad was a UMC minister, and he was a good man. When they moved away, the church got a new minister who immediately put up pink triangles and rainbows with an “All Are Welcome” message on the church sign. This was around 1990. So the split has been coming for a long time.
Sodomy versus non-sodomy.
Not only between and within Christian denominations, but the various branches of Judaism as well.
Sodomy is now a religion, not just a sexual practice. Furthermore it is the official religion of the global elite, even those individuals who do not prefer the sexual practice.
Also see my tagline.
The Methodists voted and the Progressives lost. Now, the anti-Democratic crybaby Left refuses to live by the outcome.
And, since Progressives infiltrated the Church structure, they will take the money and property and leave.
Someone should lock up the name “Divided Methodist Church”.
I remember some former EUBs who never got over it.
The UMC is NOTHING like the holiness movement involving the Wesley brothers. Nothing.
Is the goal allowing gays to marry and preach in the church, or is the goal to destroy the church?
There are plenty of denominations that allow gays - why must the UMC go along also?
I doubt the hue and cry will cease once the split happens. The militant gays will just go after the traditionalists.
Ping!