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To: CraigEsq

You just called G-d a liar in your post. The Bible clearly states G-d cannot lie, You clearly believe Baptism MUST happen and G-d stated as such to receive grace, ergo G-d Lied because the Thief was not baptized.

Your God can be capricious and change his nature at will, which is CLEARLY not biblical, again the bible states G-d cannot lie and is a rational G-d. G-ds laws and nature are unchanging and eternal, again biblically supported.

Your position requires your God to be none of those.


131 posted on 02/15/2022 7:54:43 AM PST by Skwor
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To: Skwor

The Bible clearly states G-d cannot lie, You clearly believe Baptism MUST happen and G-d stated as such to receive grace, ergo G-d Lied because the Thief was not baptized.


Wow, mind reading and false witness all in one post!

I never said baptism MUST happen- I only said what baptism DOES. God can do what he wishes, regardless of a person’s status as baptized or not. Baptism saves, but a lack of baptism does not condemn, Only a lack of faith. A person can come to faith before his baptism, but that doesn’t mean baptism doesn’t do what the Bible says it does.

Furthermore, all old testament saints were obviously saved without being baptized - it hadn’t been instituted yet (or even by the time of the thief on the cross).


138 posted on 02/15/2022 8:03:45 AM PST by CraigEsq
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To: Skwor

The thief died more than 50 days before the church even began. The thief is a non-issue. How could he be baptized into something that didn’t exist? He couldn’t be baptized, he was nailed to a cross. The Lord could pronounce forgiveness of sins and he decided to pronounce forgiveness of sins to the thief.


278 posted on 02/15/2022 5:49:58 PM PST by NorthStarOkie (You are what you are because that is exactly what you want to be. Marcos Aurelius)
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