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To: af_vet_1981
The only way you can float that lie is to ignore all the verses right before and right after the ONE verse you want to make say it is Mary the Mother of Jesus. what a Catholic you show yourself to be, posting the writings of others without attribution and claiming your religion's interpretation of scripture, shuffled along by taking verse out of context, as if you have found truith even as you share false interpretations of God's Word. The following is the context you deceitfully leave out:

Revelation 12 And a great sign was seen in the heaven, a woman arrayed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars,

2 and being with child she doth cry out, travailing and pained to bring forth.

3 And there was seen another sign in the heaven, and, lo, a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his head seven diadems,

4 and his tail doth draw the third of the stars of the heaven, and he did cast them to the earth; and the dragon did stand before the woman who is about to bring forth, that when she may bring forth, her child he may devour;

5 and she brought forth a male child, who is about to rule all the nations with a rod of iron, and caught away was her child unto God and His throne,

6 and the woman did flee to the wilderness, where she hath a place made ready from God, that there they may nourish her -- days a thousand, two hundred, sixty

. 7 And there came war in the heaven; Michael and his messengers did war against the dragon, and the dragon did war, and his messengers,

8 and they did not prevail, nor was their place found any more in the heaven;

9 and the great dragon was cast forth -- the old serpent, who is called `Devil,' and `the Adversary,' who is leading astray the whole world -- he was cast forth to the earth, and his messengers were cast forth with him.

10 And I heard a great voice saying in the heaven, `Now did come the salvation, and the power, and the reign, of our God, and the authority of His Christ, because cast down was the accuser of our brethren, who is accusing them before our God day and night;

11 and they did overcome him because of the blood of the Lamb, and because of the word of their testimony, and they did not love their life -- unto death;

12 because of this be glad, ye heavens, and those in them who do tabernacle; woe to those inhabiting the land and the sea, because the Devil did go down unto you, having great wrath, having known that he hath little time.'

13 And when the dragon saw that he was cast forth to the earth, he pursued the woman who did bring forth the male,

14 and there were given to the woman two wings of the great eagle, that she may fly to the wilderness, to her place, where she is nourished a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent;

15 and the serpent did cast forth after the woman, out of his mouth, water as a river, that he may cause her to be carried away by the river,

16 and the land did help the woman, and the land did open its mouth and did swallow up the river, that the dragon did cast forth out of his mouth;

17 and the dragon was angry against the woman, and went away to make war with the rest of her seed, those keeping the commands of God, and having the testimony of Jesus Christ.

The scene is stretching from the time of God taking Israel as His wife to the time during the Tribulation when satan is so angry at Israel for bringing forth the Messiah, and satan tries to kill Israel but God supernaturally protects her to the end of the Tribulation. Have you never read the twelfth chapter of The Revelation? If the imagery is of Mary where are the following attacks on Israel to be placed in your mythos?

367 posted on 12/18/2021 4:38:56 PM PST by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: MHGinTN

If the woman in Revelation is Mary, then the reference to “the rest of her seed” means that she was not perpetually a virgin as she had other children.


370 posted on 12/18/2021 5:39:51 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith…)
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To: MHGinTN; aMorePerfectUnion; metmom; boatbums
Have you never read the twelfth chapter of The Revelation? If the imagery is of Mary where are the following attacks on Israel to be placed in your mythos?

When I was a Catholic, back in the Jurassic period, I was so ignorant, I didn’t even know there was such a thing, as the book of Revelation, so I never heard of any of this stuff, but the woman of Revelation 12, is Israel, not Mary. Mary has been dead, for 2,000 years, how on earth could she be in future events? Answer: she’s not. Mary has never heard any prayer, from anyone and she never will. She would be mortified if she knew some religions had turned her into a demi goddess, and all her apparitions, are fallen angels, masquerading as Mary.

372 posted on 12/18/2021 6:14:11 PM PST by Mark17 (USAF ATCer, Retired. Father of USAF pilot. ATCers & pilots, the quintessential elements of aviation)
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To: MHGinTN
she brought forth a male child

Israel is male, men do not give birth to children, women give birth to children.




386 posted on 12/18/2021 7:21:23 PM PST by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began)
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