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To: boatbums
Don't you think if Scripture was really the foundational "root" for the teaching of the Assumption of Mary the Catholic church wouldn't have waited almost 2000 years to declare it?

Don't you think that logic then similarly condemns the modern inventions of saving oneself by proclaiming Jesus as a personal Lord/Savior? Or scriptural evidence proclaiming the (nicodemus) ideal of being "born again" salvation not found in two millenia? OR the later invention 500 years ago of sola scriptura...or once saved, always saved... that have no explicit usage in Scripture either and only appear 1500 -2000 years later as well?
328 posted on 12/16/2021 10:58:38 PM PST by MurphsLaw ("Behold a virgin shall be with child, and bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel")
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To: MurphsLaw
Or scriptural evidence proclaiming the (nicodemus) ideal of being "born again" salvation not found in two millenia?

How long has Jesus' warning been carved in stone??


Call no man father...

340 posted on 12/17/2021 3:43:15 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: MurphsLaw
Don't you think that logic then similarly condemns the modern inventions of saving oneself by proclaiming Jesus as a personal Lord/Savior? Or scriptural evidence proclaiming the (nicodemus) ideal of being "born again" salvation not found in two millenia? OR the later invention 500 years ago of sola scriptura...or once saved, always saved... that have no explicit usage in Scripture either and only appear 1500 -2000 years later as well?

Oh my, where to begin? I don't think you are genuinely asking these questions in order to know the answer but more as a tit-for-tat rejoinder because your feelings are wounded by my earlier logical questions. I can show you from Scripture EVERY single thing you are claiming is a "later invention" or lacking explicit usage in Scripture - and these HAVE BEEN shown to you on other threads. Why should I spend time doing so again when it won't make any difference?

It's curious, though, that you are insisting on Scripture to prove what you probably imagine are Protestant novelties while you swallow whole whatever your religion declares is truth when there is no and never has been a Biblical basis for a dogma or doctrine. The development of doctrine is only valid when you guys do it? What I think is your real problem is you don't view Holy Scripture as the authority for the rule of the Christian faith. You don't believe that God has given us His word in a form that has been preserved for thousands of years so that we can know what HE has revealed about Himself, our purpose in life, how He wants us to live and to have assurance of our salvation through faith in Jesus Christ. And He has given us the indwelling Holy Spirit Who will lead us into all truth if we are open and honestly seeking to know it. It's only hard to understand Scripture if one is dull of hearing or is untaught, unstable or twisting them to their own destruction.

357 posted on 12/17/2021 9:28:51 PM PST by boatbums (Lord, make my life a testimony to the value of knowing you.)
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