A Masterpiece on the Immaculate Conception

The Catholic Thing ^ | December 8th, 2021 | Michael Pakaluk

[Elsie]

half-way there!

[Elsie]

This is NOT funny!

  

666 posted on Friday, September 17, 2021 7:00:28 AM by --Half_brother_of_the_Beast (You can call on my brother ANY time!)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[delchiante]

Af_vet,
The woman is also a combination of stars that the sun travels through in the fall.
And the moon ends up under her feet.

A sign that speaks of a birth of a man child.
Caught up to heaven and to rule the nations with a rod of iron..

That sign used to have the sun traveling through it in the summer.

A couple thousand years ago.

About 40 days before the day Anna the prophetess,and Israel, was to afflict their souls night and day..

Nowhere near December 25 or February 2..
More like the 1st day of the Father’s 6th month and His 10th day of 7th month, Day of Atonement.

Religion needs to be careful, it might stumble into Truth and destroy inherited lies..

[MHGinTN]

Your Catholic mind made a switch from the topic of the Mary stuff to whether there is proof Jesus lived among men. I am not surprised at such moving of the goal posts, it is natural when you cannot offer ANYTHING from scripture which supports the mythos regarding the blessed Mother of Jesus. I leave you to your myths. But since you don’ty believe in the Pre-Trib Rapture removal of The Body of Christ Believers, may I just caution you to not take the mark when commanded of you, if you survive the horrendous chaos which follows the removal / escape from the Wath of The Lamb.

[MHGinTN]

Do not take the mark when commanded to you, should you survive the great departure chaos.

[Elsie]

...my ATM and credit cards do not work right now, so I have no access to my money in California...

Preview of Rev 13:17

PS: when service is restored; determine to have a bugout stash you can access.

[MurphsLaw]

Call no man father...

Jewish Rabbits, and… ABBA, hardest hit… again…

I bet your probably one of those types who also believe that if someone divorces his wife, except for unchastity, and marries another- commits adultery… . totally unadulterated…

[MurphsLaw]

• Your Catholic mind made a switch from the topic of the Mary stuff to whether there is proof Jesus lived among men. I am not surprised at such moving of the goal posts, it is natural when you cannot offer ANYTHING from scripture which supports the mythos regarding the blessed Mother of Jesus. I leave you to your myths...

May I suggest... Your “Mind that is Catholic”… as a much more preferred connotation – It is not I that Live, but Christ who lives in me…

What you perceive is “moving the goal posts” is just your lack of seeing that nothing is moved… rather you just keep adding goal posts…In this instance you are not seeing my thematic subtlety…as I have probably not been direct enough to get you to see your theme of your recent posts entombed with ad hominem “magic thinking”, and Catholic “Myth” or now “mythos” as you put it. You clearly have been desiring to qualify the Christian supernatural as something only you can access… and those of your thinking.

What I have replied with was to show you the failing with your “miraculous” me dogma. Maybe I assumed incorrectly that you had engaged agnostics or atheists on your path. I certainly have and gave the best defense of the Faith possible. Their best argument or line of attack for the non- believer is to dismiss the supernatural, miraculous omnipotence of God as made up storybook poppycock with no foundational or historical evidence. (The only reason I injected Tacitus- and his ancient writing on the “superstitious and abominable” nature of the first Christians is Rome was for color, background- no Goal post moving.)

The theme of trying to defend then against the atheist the Miraculous unbound power of God , of Christ, of the Resurrection… those things of the Mystery of the Christian faith are built upon- that have no human conception to analyze- is a tenuous theme at best. We lose when we say- “It’s written in the Bible”-
“So what” they say- prove that it is REAL.

If you've never have had to defend Christ or the Christian doctrines we believe in – I hope you have though - against this ever increasing God-less culture around us- you probably won’t understand what I am trying to get you to see here. Hopefully anyone else will and benefit from it. But trust me- much of the world DOES equate a fantasy ideal to Christ in the same way as they do Santa Claus.

There are many, many non-Catholics who are in this defensive position often- to fight these accusations of Christian mythology- and do a good job of it. Defending the supernaturality of the Christian faithis a difficult thing. They won't read Aquinas either.

The deal I have an issue with is when on one hand – a Christian will fight against the mythical notion of Christ being sold in our culture, and have to fight to proclaim that miraculous, ancient supernatural Christian power – and then thes very same Christians will turn right around and accuse a Catholic- OF THE VERY SAME THING - they just got done standing up for and supported against the non-believer. It does not seem consistent or ingenuous to play both sides like that. That's all.

[af_vet_1981]

Odd those who lobby to literally forbid that word אַבָּא, never seem to lobby for literally plucking out an eye or cutting off a hand, as if there was no sin.

[af_vet_1981]

Do not take the mark when commanded to you, should you survive the great departure chaos.

To borrow from Leonard Cohen,

You say I took the mark in vain
I don’t even know the mark
But if I did, well really, what’s it to you?
There’s a blaze of light in every word
It doesn’t matter which you heard
The holy or the broken hallelujah

[Mark17]

I wonder if APPARITIONS that do this get the same sentence??

They do indeed sir. The apparitions that claim to be Mary, are not Mary at all. They are fallen angels, and deception is their goal. I used to be in a certain false religion, which you know. I used to believe in this false doctrine about Mary, but not any more. 😀😁
Today is the first day we have seen the sun in about 5 days. Still have sporadic, super slow internet, but they are working on it. We have a bug out plan, if push comes to shove. We head to my in laws farm, up in the wilderness, in the mountains. Lots of Catholics up there. I have managed to lead some out of the church. It’s a beautiful thing. 😀😄😂😆👍

[Mark17]

Odd those who lobby to literally forbid that word אַבָּא, never seem to lobby for literally plucking out an eye or cutting off a hand, as if there was no sin.

I know of at least one freeper, who has indeed suggested you DO exactly that, if you are going to interpret scripture literally, so don’t say it hasn’t been suggested. It has, and if you haven’t sliced off your hand, I must ask why not? I will clue you in bro. It’s not to be taken literally, like you may think. This is kindergarten Sunday level of doctrine bro. You can’t get any simpler or more basic than this, and yet, some people don’t get it. They also can’t figure out what “call no man father” means. Do not take the mark of the beast, when commanded to do so. 👍🤗

[af_vet_1981]

It’s not to be taken literally, like you may think.

Really ? Do you disagree that is better for you to enter into life halt or maimed, rather than having two hands or two feet to be cast into everlasting fire ?

[Mark17]

It’s not to be taken literally, like you may think.

Really ? Do you disagree that is better for you to enter into life halt or maimed, rather than having two hands or two feet to be cast into everlasting fire ?

Yes it is, so when will you slice off your hand? How many times do I have to tell you? Don’t interpret everything literally. How many times bro? How many times? I will NEVER, NEVER agree with your interpretations. I am pretty sure you can’t even understand what “call no man father” means. My son, who is now a US Air Force pilot, understood the concept perfectly, when he was 4 years old, yet, adults can’t grasp it. That’s disturbing bro, but I know why people can’t grasp it.
As I mentioned, kindergarten Sunday school class material bro. It doesn’t get any easier that that. If you can’t understand what “call no man father” means, how on earth are you going to stay out of that “ever lasting fire, you mentioned? It might be right difficult bro. DO NOT take the mark of the beast, when commanded to.

[metmom]

How about literally calling no man father?

Y’all need to relabel your priests.

And pope.

[Mark17]

It’s not hard to figure out MM. For those slow to understand. It has nothing to do at all, with calling your earthly dad, father. It’s so simple, even a child can understand it. It means don’t refer to priests, pastors, rabbis, or anyone else, as “father,” in the religious sense of the word. There is NO priestly class in true Christianity. None whatsoever. There might be in pseudo Christianity, but not in true Christianity. Why is this so difficult to understand? It’s not hard at all. 😂🤗

[boatbums]

Don't you think that logic then similarly condemns the modern inventions of saving oneself by proclaiming Jesus as a personal Lord/Savior? Or scriptural evidence proclaiming the (nicodemus) ideal of being "born again" salvation not found in two millenia? OR the later invention 500 years ago of sola scriptura...or once saved, always saved... that have no explicit usage in Scripture either and only appear 1500 -2000 years later as well?

Oh my, where to begin? I don't think you are genuinely asking these questions in order to know the answer but more as a tit-for-tat rejoinder because your feelings are wounded by my earlier logical questions. I can show you from Scripture EVERY single thing you are claiming is a "later invention" or lacking explicit usage in Scripture - and these HAVE BEEN shown to you on other threads. Why should I spend time doing so again when it won't make any difference?

It's curious, though, that you are insisting on Scripture to prove what you probably imagine are Protestant novelties while you swallow whole whatever your religion declares is truth when there is no and never has been a Biblical basis for a dogma or doctrine. The development of doctrine is only valid when you guys do it? What I think is your real problem is you don't view Holy Scripture as the authority for the rule of the Christian faith. You don't believe that God has given us His word in a form that has been preserved for thousands of years so that we can know what HE has revealed about Himself, our purpose in life, how He wants us to live and to have assurance of our salvation through faith in Jesus Christ. And He has given us the indwelling Holy Spirit Who will lead us into all truth if we are open and honestly seeking to know it. It's only hard to understand Scripture if one is dull of hearing or is untaught, unstable or twisting them to their own destruction.

[metmom]

It’s not hard unless your church demands you do something that Jesus forbade and tells you you have to obey it over Jesus or risk your eternal salvation.

[Mark17]

It's only hard to understand Scripture if one is dull of hearing or is untaught, unstable or twisting them to their own destruction.

I choose option E, all of the above. 🙃 When people are willing victims of 1st Corinthians 2:14, it’s no surprise their false religions, are chock full of false doctrines. When they can’t even understand the absolute most simple concept in the Bible, “call no man father,” I would say they are in deep kimchi, and are men who face a dark and lonely grave. (Jamall Badry) False religionists have a bleak eternity facing them. And the kicker is, when you warn them, they laugh at you.
Unfortunately for false religionists, God will get the last laugh. Proverbs 1:26-28. Something tells me, it’s probably not a good thing, if God laughs at people, but it’s coming, just as sure as the day is long. It’s best to get your eternal destiny solved now, rather than waiting till one dies, to see if one goes to Heaven or not. That is a 99.9999%, virtual guarantee, that person will spend a long long time in the flames. Don’t do it.

[Elsie]

I bet your probably one of those types who also believe that if someone divorces his wife, except for unchastity, and marries another- commits adultery… . totally unadulterated…

...he typed; sneeringly.

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You mean these Words of JESUS found in the Book Rome compiled so long ago??

 

 

 

Matthew 5:32
But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.

 

Mark 10:11,12
And he saith unto them, Whosoever shall put away his wife, and marry another, committeth adultery against her…

 

Luke 16:18
Whosoever putteth away his wife, and marrieth another, committeth adultery: and whosoever marrieth her that is put away from her husband committeth adultery.

 

 

Matthew 19:8-10

 

 8 Jesus replied, “Moses permitted you to divorce your wives because of your hardness of heart; but it was not this way from the beginning.
 9 Now I tell you that whoever divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another woman, commits adultery.”
10 His disciples said to Him, “If this is the case between a man and his wife, it is better not to marry.”