*That's* why a big surprise awaits.
Posted on 12/03/2021 9:37:08 AM PST by SeekAndFind
The Lord has a Covenant with Israel. That won’t ever go away and neither will His promises.
A shame you believe He just decided to hit a reset button and changed His mind…
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So much assumption on what I have or have not read.
What I posted does not contradict Romans. But the responses I got are interesting.
Correct, but we Gentiles are grafted in to the believing Jewish Tree. The New Covenant (Jeremiah 31) is made with believing Israel / Judah, we are grafted in forming the Church. Jesus is coming back with the Church to reclaim His land and establish His kingdom. A remnant of unbelieving Jews will be saved (grafted back in) when they recognize who Jesus is…(Zechariah 12)
To quote another poster:
They always will be God’s chosen people, although they still need to be saved. All other believers are adopted in.
Being God’s Chosen People and salvation are not the same thing. Related, but not the same.
Correct.
When they mourn the one they pierced they’ll finally figure it out.
Hosea 5:15
Zechariah 12:10
A lot of projections made when folks post on religion threads.
Christians are good at scalping each other.
God chose the Jews for a particular role and made a Covenant with them and through them all the nations of the Earth have been blessed, for by their line God was incarnate. That is the sense in which they are His chosen people. However us gentiles are invited into His kingdom as well. This is nothing new, even in the days of Abraham there were already gentiles who worshipped God, for example Melchizedek King oof Salem was a High Priest of God as well as a King, whom Abram gave ten percent of his wealth to.
I’m embarrassed that it’s only 51%.
Which means half don’t study their Bibles.
Old Testament, yes. New Testament, no. There was that thing called Christ's Birth, Death & Resurrection that changed things dramatically.
*That's* why a big surprise awaits.
“chosen” (elect) in 1 Peter 2:9 does not refer to salvation?
In 1 Peter 2:8,9 there is a contrast made: “BUT” you are a chosen people (saved) contrasted from the disobedient lost people of v8. Not being of this ‘chosen’ is being lost.
Bernie Madoff, Harvey Weinstein, Chuck Schumer, Dianne Feinstein, Adam Schiff, Al Goldstein, Ron Jeremy, Seth Rogan, Sarah Silverman, Howard Stern, Sam Harris...
All are eligible for a special “friends and family” deal from God not available to others.
I have read all of Romans chapter 9-11 many times. Paul knows God has cast the Jews off (Romans 11) so in Romans 9 Paul refutes the arguments he knew the Jews would have in God casting them off and refutes the errors the Jews believed.
In Romans 10 and 11 Paul shows us who have always been God’s people and that being the ones who obeyed God have always been God’s people as those who obeyed by not bowing to false god Baal. The Jews would not obey Christ hence broken off and not of God’s people.
Jews came from all over to be at Pentecost in Jerusalem in Acts 2 and Peter condemned them all for crucifying the Christ. Peter commanded them in the plural ‘you all repent’, all Jews as a nation were to repent and each one baptized. If the nation repented then that means each individual Jew was to repent.
Paul makes it plain the Jews were cast off Romans 9-11. God never changed His mind about the Jews for God never promised the Jew unconditional salvation. For though the Jews were chosen in one sense to being the people by which the Messiah entered the world, they still had to obey God to be saved and they would not, Matt 23:37.
Here is a video which may be of some use to your data bank: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYBPhO7l2UM
or not.
I guess it depends on what He meant by “descendants”.
Evangelical Protestant AmericansThis poll assumes these are a homogenous group. Would be far more enlightening to see the demographic breakdown.
We all have a special deal with the Lord, but they do too given their status if they are indeed Abraham’s seed.
So long as they have breath.
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