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To: Cronos

I’ve often said that elements of the gnostic gospels can be found in the Koran—as I’ve seen what looks like similar interpretations of the life death and resurrection of Jesus —and also the role of Mary—in both. but I’m fuzzy on details. Do you know the details well enough to quote chapter and verse.


7 posted on 09/27/2021 11:50:08 AM PDT by ckilmer
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To: ckilmer

hi,

Yes - sorry for the delay

Isa’s (non-) death
That they said (in boast), “We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah”;- but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not:-
Nay, Allah raised him up unto Himself; and Allah is Exalted in Power, Wise;-
— Quran 4:157–158[11]

3:55
“O Jesus, indeed I will take you and raise you to Myself and purify you from those who disbelieve and make those who follow you [in submission to Allah alone] superior to those who disbelieve until the Day of Resurrection. Then to Me is your return, and I will judge between you concerning that in which you used to differ.
https://corpus.quran.com/translation.jsp?chapter=3&verse=55


The role of Mary is even more hilarious

5:116
Sahih International: And [beware the Day] when Allah will say, “O Jesus, Son of Mary, did you say to the people, ‘Take me and my mother as deities besides Allah ?’” He will say, “Exalted are You! It was not for me to say that to which I have no right. If I had said it, You would have known it. You know what is within myself, and I do not know what is within Yourself. Indeed, it is You who is Knower of the unseen.

https://corpus.quran.com/translation.jsp?chapter=5&verse=116


9 posted on 11/03/2021 8:08:52 AM PDT by Cronos ( One cannot desire freedom from the Cross, especially when one is especially chosen for the cross)
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