Posted on 08/22/2021 10:12:42 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
Vatican II has created its own destructive message.
Anyone thinking Mohammed is a path to salvation is a brain dead fool.
60% of Americans are going to be bitterly disappointed.
Seems “born again Christian” has a flexible meaning or definition.
So also says the heretic "catholic" Bishop Robert Barron:
Barron: “Yes…the Catholic view…go back to the 2nd Vatican Council says it very clearly….I mean Christ is the privileged route to salvation…that is the privileged route….However, Vatican II clearly teaches that someone outside the explicitly Christian faith can be saved….it might be received according to your conscience….Now that doesn’t conduce to a complete relativism…We would still say the privileged route and the route that God has offered to humanity is the route of His Son…but no, you can be saved..uh…even Vatican II says that an Atheist of good will can be saved…..
Bishop Robert Barron Has Misled Ben Shapiro
Is Jesus Christ the ‘privileged way’ to salvation—or the only way?
I think of Archie Bunker’s line:
“Jesus Christ I dig, and I dug him a long time before you weirdos turned him into a superstar.”
“If so, they are not Christians. Plain and simple. End of discussion.”
Amen.
They want the catholic church to embrace their sin..Every other church does....
They haven’t been taught or, if they have been, they haven’t been paying attention. They are not reading the Bible or, if they are, they are not interpreting it correctly. It’s very clear on who Jesus is. Worldly thinking and attitudes, including a lack of humility toward God’s revelation and even God Himself, have also taken their toll. Basic theological knowledge, which helps provide a rational basis for faith, would be helpful too, but it probably goes without saying that that isn’t there either.
Often in English usage we presume that an opinion one agrees with and what one thinks to be the same thing. But they are not, and the difference is sharp in this case. I submit that nobody thinks that all religions are equal and none are more valid than the other and so forth. Now many hold this opinion and will agree to statements that are in agreement to it, but I submit they don’t “think” it. Because there is no line of reasoning that would ever conclude such a thing. Reasoning about the subject causes this silly opinion to evaporate. What I take this survey to mean is that the 60% of respondence are just going along with the opinion one is supposed to express and have never thought about the subject critically in their lives.
“ This means, even born-again Christians “can have a false view of Jesus Christ”
This is false. The only way one is “born again” is by having a proper view of oneself (as sinner) and a proper view of Christ as Lord and Savior. Saw a quote once that went something like the:
“All error in scriptural understanding stems from a low estimation of Christ.”
The Church screwed up...
Also, difficult for parents to fight the systems.
No, they are not born again Christians.
They may call themselves that but anyone who denies that Jesus alone is the way to God is not a born again Christian.
Or they may be a hopelessly confused baby Christian who doesn’t know a thing about Jesus who they accepted. But that would be a VERY small percentage.
“scared off from embracing Christianity”
They should be really scared of the alternative.
“by what they have heard in. their schools”
They should consider that the government pushing this really displeases God and there will be unpleasant consequences for the government and its people.
It does seem to be the case, though, that the religious "Great Awakening" that began in the 1970s has sputtered out. This is something that has already happened three or four or five times in American history. There's a long cycle of religious revivals and backsliding going back to colonial days.
Cool. If you beat your wife and honor kill your kids, just go muzzy.
If the don't believe, then how are they "born again Christians"?
John 14:6 makes that fairly clear. “Well that’s your interpretation” can’t apply to something that clear.
For all the arguments about the end times or other things. Either believe in the Son or don’t. I will believe in Him always and forever.
When Communist Russia began persecuting Christians, the average church fell from 300 to 15. That was a 95% falling away. The same will happen here.
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