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To: Cronos; smvoice; Seven_0

Your effort at bullying aside, none other than Irenaeus stated that John saw the apocalypse near the end of Domitian’s reign, not during Nero’s reign. John penned The Revelation in 95AD, not before the fall of Jerusalem in 70AD. YOU are a liar and a religious bully with false teaching you keep spewing out at FR.


282 posted on 08/16/2021 9:07:07 AM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: MHGinTN; smvoice; Seven_0
MHG - you're repeating an untruth again - Irenaeus did not say that John saw the Apocalypse during the end of Domitian's reign

The Syriac version of the book of Revelation begins by stating that it was written in Patmos, to which John was sent by Nero Caesar

Also the Syriac book dating to the first century The History of John the Son of Zebedee (reference Gentry The book of Revelation page 146) asserts that Nero exiled John

The book ITSELF says that it was written during Nero's time - see Rev 1:9 9 I, John, your brother, who share with you the distress, the kingdom, and the endurance we have in Jesus, found myself on the island called Patmos[a] because I proclaimed God’s word and gave testimony to Jesus. , 2:10; 12:11; 13:15) -- that the book of Revelation was written in a time of great tribulation -- and Clement of Alexandria says that John wrote the Apocalypse while on the island of Patmos, where he had been banished by a tyrant.

There were NO widespread imperial persecution of the Jesus-movement Jews under Domitian

Nero on the other hand, as Tacticus wrote Mockery of every sort was added to the Christians' deaths. Covered with the skins of beasts, they were torn by dogs and perished, or were nailed to crosses, or were doomed to the flames and burnt, to serve as nightly illumination, when day had expired. Nero offered his gardens for the spectacle, and was exhibiting a show in the circus... There arose a feeling for compassion; for it was not, as it seemed, for the public good that the Christians were being destroyed

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Furthermore if you compare the Greek in the book of Revelation v/s the Gospel of John you can see that the latter has BETTER Greek, more grammatically accurate etc. - this is as the Gospel of John dates to the 80s AD.

283 posted on 08/16/2021 9:51:18 AM PDT by Cronos ( One cannot desire freedom from the Cross, especially when one is especially chosen for the cross)
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