It doesn’t seem to matter how many times we have said we are NOT saying “Christians...have a license to sin without penalty, to commit lawlessness”, they will still lie and say we are.
What’s the penalty if a “saved” Christian sins unrepentantly? You guys say once a person is “saved”, NOTHING will keep them out of heaven. Once saved, always saved, right? So, what’s the penalty for committing lawlessness?
How about a “saved” person who continues to do these types of things (v15)?
Rev 22: 14Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
15For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.
Or these:
ADULTERY
EFFEMINATE
FORNICATION
HOMOSEXUALITY
UNCLEANNESS
LASCIVIOUSNESS
DRUNKENNESS
FORNICATION
COVETOUSNESS.
EMULATIONS
ENVY
HATRED
VARIANCE
WRATH
EXTORTION
HERESIES
REVELLINGS
SEDITIONS
STRIFE
THEFT
And the like…..
“WHAT IS TRUE REPENTANCE? According to the writings of the Apostle Paul, if anyone practices one or more of the following 23 sins, then they “will not inherit the kingdom of God” (i.e., go to heaven). This is because true repentance is more than telling God we are sorry for our sins. It also involves turning away from our sins, and beginning to walk in obedience to God. If you “repent,” but then continue to practice one or more of these sins, then you have not truly repented, according to Scripture.”
https://followingmessiah.org/2018/03/22/23-sins-that-will-keep-you-from-gods-kingdom/
(I just came across this article and I liked this definition of true rependance, and of course there is the list of sins that can keep people out of heaven)
You and I both know that the bible clearly states that those who continue in these sins (being unrepentant), will not be in heaven. Claiming to have been saved and free from the penalty of eternal death, will not save them.
Believing that equates to A LICENSE TO SIN (No penalty).
Well, let me turn your question around and ask you... What saves you - faith or works? Are you saved by the grace of God through faith in Jesus Christ or are you saved because you try to not sin and be a good and obedient Christian? Are you saved by the blood of Christ who made propitiation for all your sins or do you merit salvation by your manner of life?
This is why I continue to challenge you whenever you claim up and down that salvation is by grace and not works but then in the next sentence you assert a Christian who sins "unrepentantly" cannot be saved! You even take it a step further with your keeping the seventh day sabbath vs. Sunday is "lawlessness" legalism. So, either we are saved by the grace of God THROUGH faith and not works or we are saved by works (e.g., being good, obeying the commandments, etc.).
Until you can settle this question in your mind, it does no good to keep explaining how the indwelling Holy Spirit works through Godly chastisement in a believer's life. You'll keep dishonestly claiming we're saying a Christian can sin with abandon and still go to heaven. Your "gospel" is no different from any other works-based religion and stands accursed.
And to reiterate...NO ONE is saying "Believing ...equates to A LICENSE TO SIN (No penalty)".
Matt 5:48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.
Matt 19:26 But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible.
Acts 15:10 Now therefore why tempt ye God, to put a yoke upon the neck of the disciples, which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear?