Posted on 08/03/2021 9:06:29 AM PDT by ebb tide
The *Pope* would not be considered infallible in his statement.
Re: 13 - This may be a good starting point:
I concur. My mom passed away 2 years ago and was blessed with psychic ability so I have grown up with a spiritual feeling all around me. I have seen some real con artists.
My mom was unhealthy for many years, immobile and watched the Catholic channel frequently. She want to Catholic school her entire life. After her passing I had a session with a beautiful woman with a spiritual gift and during this time my mom came to her and passed this along. "Your mom not happy with all of the restrictions and the way the Catholic church is here on earth".
She saw the truth in the Lord but was lead astray on earth by a religious organization.The people running the Catholic church and who have been for many years are more out of touch than an atheist.
There should not be a “religious” exemption that needs approval from a huge, self-contradictory bureaucratic church. It should be a “conscientious objector” exemption. It’s the individuals moral concerns that give them the RIGHT to reject the vaccine. A conscientious objector is denying the vax because of his moral believes, irrespective of what a formal religion decides. Again, the authority for individual choice is being given to govt/church with unethical rejection of individual conscience.
I did not leave the Catholic Church.... The Catholic Church left me ~~. Long Ago!
That because we are no longer individuals.
In their minds eye.
I did not leave the Catholic Church.... The Catholic Church left me ~~. Long Ago!
The pope says it’s ok, while the vatican also admits it is a remote cooperation with evil. No church has the authority to coerce people to get a vaccine. The vaccine is permissible but NOT “morally irreproachable.”
The MSM is ice-cold quiet about Mr. Bergoglio because they support his efforts to destroy the Church and don’t want to shine the light on his activities.
Doesn’t matter.
Smoke and mirror arguments will be used if confronted and ignoring that minor detail can no longer be done.
The church is spiritual, about God. You need to do all you can to keep the “world” out of the church and believe me, if the world can, they will recruit the church just like the communist Chinese are trying, the Nazi’s tried...
The modern western world is WORSE for religion than the worst atheist state in history and that is no joke or over exaggeration.
In the past, the communists saw religion as the “opiate of the masses” as something stupid and forcefully oppressed religion. Religion was able to stand strong by going underground in Poland, Russia, and elsewhere. However, the modern western world has it’s own idea of what right and wrong is (situational ethics) and pretends to be logical and scientific. Instead of oppressing and parking a tank in front of the church, they offer financial incentives (carrot) and avoid liability (stick) if you close the church doors during Covid, and sadly many churches that say they serve God and claim it’s all about getting souls to heaven closed their doors because they serve the world.
Wherever you can, separate the church from this world as much as possible because the world belongs to someone else, and it isn’t God: https://www.openbible.info/topics/satan_rules_earth
The more a church becomes of this world, accepting global warming, becoming inclusive to the homosexual and feminist agenda, running their own credit union and managing money, becoming stooges in political games as with Covid, where it’s more important to be popular and even getting on the cover of Rolling Stone magazine... the less they become about God. You can’t have two masters: https://www.openbible.info/topics/serving_two_masters
Sadly, not even the clergy see this anymore. They believe more in “science” than what they preach.
Yes they are.
No they don’t.
I will not be subjugating my everlasting soul to them.
oh, so it’s ok to use fetal stem cell lines in vaccine research, testing and production and the end does justify the means.
Or to receive Holy Communion if you discern that your adultery outside of a sacramental marriage can be justifed:
"Yet conscience can do more than recognize that a given situation does not correspond objectively to the overall demands of the Gospel. It can also recognize with sincerity and honesty what for now is the most generous response which can be given to God, and come to see with a certain moral security that it is what God himself is asking amid the concrete complexity of one’s limits, while yet not fully the objective ideal." Amoris Laetia
"For what now is the most generous response"... If not now, when?
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