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To: KierkegaardMAN
Paul spread the Gospel through Rome, not Peter.

The Catholic church had nothing to do with writing the scriptures.

It was all of God, through the Holy Spirit.


The Holy Spirit is the author of Scripture. Therefore, it is true (Psalm 119:142) and altogether reliable (Hebrews 6:18). It is powerful,

22 posted on 07/26/2021 2:04:32 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true, I have no proof, but they're true)
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To: knarf; KierkegaardMAN
knarf - your Paul spread the Gospel through Rome, not Peter.is false

Reference to the meeting of Peter and Paul in Rome

William A. Jurgens, in his three-volume The Faith of the Early Fathers, a masterly compendium that cites at length everything from the Didache to John Damascene, includes thirty references to this question, divided, in the index, about evenly between the statements that “Peter came to Rome and died there” and that “Peter established his See at Rome and made the bishop of Rome his successor in the primacy.” A few examples must suffice, but they and other early references demonstrate that there can be no question that the universal—and very early—position was that Peter certainly did end up in the capital of the empire.

the Apostles went to all the ends of the Earth - Thomas went FURTHER - to southern India.

Peter went to the heart of the gentile beast, the empire, to preach

Tertullian, in The Demurrer Against the Heretics (A.D. 200), noted of Rome, “How happy is that church . . . where Peter endured a passion like that of the Lord, where Paul was crowned in a death like John’s [referring to John the Baptist, both he and Paul being beheaded].” Protestants admit Paul died in Rome, so the implication from Tertullian is that Peter also must have been there.

Clement wrote his Letter to the Corinthians perhaps before the year 70, just a few years after Peter and Paul were killed; in it he made reference to Peter ending his life where Paul ended his.

Clement of Alexandria wrote at the turn of the third century. A fragment of his work Sketches is preserved in Eusebius of Caesarea’s Ecclesiastical History, the first history of the Church. Clement wrote, “When Peter preached the word publicly at Rome, and declared the gospel by the Spirit, many who were present requested that Mark, who had been for a long time his follower and who remembered his sayings, should write down what had been proclaimed.”

There is ample evidence from people closer to that time to attest that Peter started the Church in the capital

34 posted on 07/27/2021 1:03:36 AM PDT by Cronos ( )
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To: knarf; KierkegaardMAN

And knarf - KierkegaardMan didn’t say the Church wrote the scriptures.

What He did point out is that the collection of 73 books happened in the Catholic Church (when its definition included the Orthodox, the Ethiopians, Copts, Armenians, Assyrians)

The Septuagint is the scripture that Paul referred to in his letters (as the Gospel of John and Apocalypse and many other NT books were not yet written). The NT books were added in by the Catholic Church.

The work of God through the Holy Spirit in the Church collected these books


35 posted on 07/27/2021 1:05:30 AM PDT by Cronos ( )
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