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MAAG. Please stop this. Consider taking back your harsh words and heedless implications. Mary Ever Virgin was perfect from the beginning, from the very moment she was conceived in her mother’s womb. No other human being, past, present or future, compares to her in purity, obedience, humility, and natural conformance to the mind and will of God. Unsullied by sin, including that of our original parents, from the earliest years of her childhood she needed only to close her eyes and begin to meditate and pray to connect directly with God’s very thoughts and intentions on any subject or in any situation. The handmaiden of the Lord, heedless of the judgment of man, confident in the wisdom and discretion of her worthy spouse and holy guardian Joseph, she willingly became the spotless Ark of the New Covenant, the New Holy of Holies. Placing herself at the service of the Christ’s bishops from the very moment of Christ’s death on the cross until her glorious assumption into Heaven to become its true and only Queen, wherein alone among men her glorified body has already been reunited with her unblemished soul, she was, for many years after the Holy Spirit descended upon her and the Apostles at Pentacost, the inspiring standard, the mysterious human magnet that irresistably unified the far-flung members of the nascent Church Militant until it could survive without her. Without a doubt, Full of Grace deserves much better than whatever your comment was meant to convey.


74 posted on 03/02/2021 12:41:07 PM PST by one guy in new jersey
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To: one guy in new jersey
Sorry Brother, but the word of our LORD disagrees with you.

1 John 1:8 New American Standard Bible (NASB)

8 If we say that we have no sin, we are deceiving ourselves and the truth is not in us.

The Lord Jesus was without sin, and no other, please don't be fooled.

Consider what our Lord says to the Catholic church. Revelation 2:18-29 New Message to Thyatira

79 posted on 03/02/2021 1:12:53 PM PST by MAAG (Tetelestai, paid in full. You are as righteous as God is. Double jeopardy is forbidden.)
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To: one guy in new jersey
Mary Ever Virgin was perfect from the beginning, from the very moment she was conceived in her mother’s womb.

There was only one perfect human; Jesus Christ. His mother Mary was a humble, observant Jewish woman betrothed to a humble, observant Jewish carpenter. Jesus had siblings, and there is no mention of Joseph having a second wife. Mary is to be honored, yes. But not worshipped as perfect.

89 posted on 03/02/2021 1:50:01 PM PST by JimRed (TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: one guy in new jersey
No other human being, past, present or future, compares to her in purity, obedience, humility, and natural conformance to the mind and will of God.

Great Catholic teaching; but not found in Scripture.


However; apparitions all agree:

 



The Marian Apparitions at Lourdes were reported in 1858 by Bernadette Soubirous, a 14-year-old miller's daughter from the town of Lourdes in southern France.

From 11 February to 16 July 1858, she reported 18 apparitions of "a Lady".

 

...and this 'lady' never identified herself. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lourdes_apparitions#The_16th_appearance_(25_March)

 



Fatima:  
 
Beginning in the spring of 1917, the children reported apparitions of an Angel, and starting in May 1917, apparitions of the Virgin Mary, whom the children described as "the Lady more brilliant than the Sun". The children reported a prophecy that prayer would lead to an end to the Great War, and that on 13 October that year the Lady would reveal her identity and perform a miracle "so that all may believe."[5]
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On 13 May 1917, the children reported seeing a woman "brighter than the sun, shedding rays of light clearer and stronger than a crystal goblet filled with the most sparkling water and pierced by the burning rays of the sun."[7] The woman wore a white mantle edged with gold and held a rosary in her hand. She asked them to devote themselves to the Holy Trinity and to pray "the Rosary every day, to bring peace to the world and an end to the war".[7] While the children had never told anyone about seeing the angel, Jacinta told her family about seeing the brightly lit woman. Lúcia had earlier said that the three should keep this experience private. Jacinta's disbelieving mother told neighbors about it as a joke, and within a day the whole village knew of the children's vision.[8]

The children said the woman told them to return to the Cova da Iria on 13 June 1917. Lúcia's mother sought counsel from the parish priest, Father Ferreira, who suggested she allow them to go. He asked to have Lúcia brought to him afterward so that he could question her.

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The second appearance occurred on 13 June, the feast of Saint Anthony, patron of the local parish church. On this occasion the lady revealed that Francisco and Jacinta would be taken to Heaven soon, but Lúcia would live longer in order to spread her message and devotion to the Immaculate Heart of Mary.[7][9]

During the June visit, the children said the lady told them to say the Holy Rosary daily in honor of Our Lady of the Rosary to obtain peace and the end of the Great War. (Three weeks earlier, on 21 April, the first contingent of Portuguese soldiers had embarked for the front lines of the war.) The lady also purportedly revealed to the children a vision of hell, and entrusted a secret to them, described as "good for some and bad for others".[9] Fr. Ferreira later stated that Lúcia recounted that the lady told her, "I want you to come back on the thirteenth and to learn to read in order to understand what I want of you. ...I don't want more."[10]

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Somewhere in the intervening months, the children must have become convinced that "the lady" was the the mother of Jesus...
 

That month, instead of the usual apparition in the Cova da Iria on 13 August, the children reported that they saw the Virgin Mary on 19 August, a Sunday, at nearby Valinhos. She asked them again to pray the rosary daily, spoke about the miracle coming in October, and asked them "to pray a lot, a lot for the sinners and sacrifice a lot, as many souls perish in hell because nobody is praying or making sacrifices for them."[8]

The three children claimed to have seen the Blessed Virgin Mary in a total of six apparitions between 13 May and 13 October 1917.

...and this 'lady' never identified herself.   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Our_Lady_of_Fátima



The Guadalupe apparition DID claim to be "Mary"

 

"Know, know for sure, my dearest, littlest, and youngest son, that I am the perfect and ever Virgin Holy Mary, Mother of the God of truth through Whom everything lives, the Lord of all things near us, the Lord of heaven and earth.

 

Read ALL the stuff 'Mary" wants done for her:  http://www.theotokos.org.uk


114 posted on 03/02/2021 7:52:47 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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