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Thanks for your response. That is an impressive background.

You have indicated that your beliefs come from the Bible and your previous studies, but that you are not associated with the Catholic Church or any other church.

Can you explain some of your beliefs based on the Bible?

1, That faith alone is sufficient for salvation. That appears to be a belief of Martin Luther and protestant religion? Yes, Jesus told us that faith was necessary, but so was Baptism, keeping His commandments, Eucharist, etc so why do you exclude them when it is clearly comes from Jesus? What is your definition of faith?

2. That you have assurance of salvation. Does this mean everyone that says they have faith is assured of salvation or do they need to agree with your beliefs? Show me where there is absolute assurance rather than an opportunity when we die after God’s judgement? That also appears to be a protestant belief? Do you dispute that all will be judged by Jesus at the time of their death on whether they go to Heaven, or Hell?

So you disagree with Jesus on parts of the Bible?
1. Christ established His Church (Catholic Church)?
2. Jesus gave His Church the 7 Sacraments including the Eucharist.
3. That Jesus told us to do good works even greater. Mt 5:16 John 14:12

In Phil 3:;&-16, Paul renounces his religion of Judaism in favor of God’s gifts to us in Christ’s Church. Legal righteousness under the old covenant is not a saving righteousness because it does not depend from the inward grace of God. Divine righteousness which we receive through faith in Jesus Christ under the New Covenant. . The life of faith is like a race, where the prize of salvation has yet to be won since the completion is still in progress.

Your comment: “Salvation comes only by entrusting yourself to Him alone for the forgiveness of sin and to make you a new creation in Him.”

So if one with saving faith commits murder, adultery, etc (mortal sins) and dies in the act, are they saved?

What changed your animus toward the Catholic Church, the Mass and good works?

Your comment: “That your opinion is that my beliefs don’t agree with the Bible does not surprise me. You are “rome-blind” as I used to be, but fir the grace of God.”

That is your opinion. You have not convinced me that your beliefs are God’s Truth. If one can not convince someone that their beliefs are supported as God’s Truth and not just opinions. then why should anyone follow your beliefs?

God bless you.

What?! This thread I left for dead still see responses after almost 32 months? Oh, i see that per usual, ADSUM is reiterating refuted but parroted polemics that she has been corrected on already.

You have indicated that your beliefs come from the Bible and your previous studies, but that you are not associated with the Catholic Church or any other church. Can you explain some of your beliefs based on the Bible? 1, That faith alone is sufficient for salvation. That appears to be a belief of Martin Luther and protestant religion? Yes, Jesus told us that faith was necessary, but so was Baptism, keeping His commandments, Eucharist, etc so why do you exclude them when it is clearly comes from Jesus? What is your definition of faith? ...So if one with saving faith commits murder, adultery, etc (mortal sins) and dies in the act, are they saved?

And as you have already been shown per usual, but ignored as it typical of one whose robotic refuted arguments run like a virus, your strawman sophist description is that of,

"a faith different from what Luther himself described as salvific within his prolix writings, such as that,"

faith is a living and an essential thing, which makes a new creature of man, changes his spirit... Faith cannot help doing good works constantly... if faith be true, it will break forth and bear fruit... where there is no faith there also can be no good works; and conversely, that there is no faith.. where there are no good works. Therefore faith and good works should be so closely joined together that the essence of the entire Christian life consists in both. if obedience and God's commandments do not dominate you, then the work is not right, but damnable, surely the devil's own doings, although it were even so great a work as to raise the dead... if you continue in pride and lewdness, in greed and anger, and yet talk much of faith, St. Paul will come and say, 1 Cor. 4:20, look here my dear Sir, "the kingdom of God is not in word but in power." It requires life and action, and is not brought about by mere talk. Works are necessary for salvation, but they do not cause salvation... faith casts itself on God, and breaks forth and becomes certain through its works... faith must be exercised, worked and polished; be purified by fire... it is impossible for him who believes in Christ, as a just Savior, not to love and to do good. If, however, he does not do good nor love, it is sure that faith is not present... where the works are absent, there is also no Christ... References and more by God's grace: http://peacebyjesus.net/Reformation_faith_works.html

However, as also shown you and ignored,

But contrary to the Catholic contrivance of the Lord's supper (see link), nowhere in the only wholly inspired-of-God and substantive record of what the NT church believed, which is Acts thru Revelation (which best shows how they understood the OT and the gospels) is the Lord's supper described as spiritual food, and the means of obtaining spiritual life in oneself. Instead, and consistent with the metaphorical use of eating and drinking, the word of God is what is called spiritual "milk," (1Co. 3:22; 1Pt. 1:22) and "meat," (Heb. 5:12-14) what is said to "nourish" the souls of believers, and believing it is how the lost obtain life in themselves. (1 Timothy 4:6; Acts 15:7-9; cf. Psalms 19:7) Thus the primary active function of pastors is preaching, (1 Timothy 4:2) by which they “feed the flock” (Acts 20:28; 1Pt. 5:2)

And as also shown you even V2 affirms faithful properly baptized Prots as Christians even though they do not believe in transubstantiation, while it is not the act itself of baptism that appropriates justification but it is the heart-purifying regenerating faith that is expressed in baptism that justifies one, being counted for righteous (and which faith thus effects obedience).

That you have assurance of salvation. Does this mean everyone that says they have faith is assured of salvation or do they need to agree with your beliefs?

As already shown you, sola fide means effectual faith justifies one, that where "there is no faith.. where there are no good works," thus mere professions do not mean one is regenerated, for one much believe in "the gospel of the grace of God," (Acts 20:24) of penitent, heart-purifying, regenerating effectual faith, (Acts 10:43-47; 15:7-9) which is imputed for righteousness, (Romans 4:5) and is shown in baptism and following the Lord, (Acts 2:38-47; Jn. 10:27,28) and by which faith the redeemed soul is "accepted in the Beloved" (Eph. 1:6) on His account.

Show me where there is absolute assurance rather than an opportunity when we die after God’s judgement?

That is simple: those who are have and thus characteristically walk in salvific obedient (and thus penitent) faith are are assured of salvation if they die in that faith,

These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God. (1 John 5:13)

However, as also told you, Scripture "warns the same against departing from the faith." (Heb. 3:12; 10:25-39; Gal. 5:1-4) What Rome actually teaches is that "no one can be absolutely certain of his or her salvation unless--as to Magdalen, to the man with the palsy, or to the penitent thief--a special revelation be given." [ http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/06701a.htm , cf. Trent, The Sixth Session, CHAPTER XII)

Do you dispute that all will be judged by Jesus at the time of their death on whether they go to Heaven, or Hell? NO: this is plainly unScriptural for "The Lord knoweth them that are His" (2 Timothy 2:19) and as shown you before, wherever Scripture clearly speak of the next conscious reality for believers then it is with the Lord, (Lk. 23:43 [cf. 2Cor. 12:4; Rv. 2:7]; Phil 1:23; 2Cor. 5:8 [“we”]; 1Cor. 15:51ff'; 1Thess. 4:17) Note in the latter case all believers were assured that if the Lord returned, which they expected in their lifetime, so would they “ever be with the Lord,” though they were still undergoing growth in grace, as was Paul. (Phil. 3:7f)

And the next transformative experience that is manifestly taught is that of being like Christ in the "first resurrection." (1Jn. 3:2; Rm. 8:23; 1Co 15:53,54; 2Co. 2-4; (Revelation 20:6)) At which time is the judgment seat of Christ, which is the only suffering after this life, which does not begin at death, but awaits the Lord's return, (1 Corinthians 4:5; 2 Timothy. 4:1,8; Revelation 11:18; Matthew 25:31-46; 1 Peter 1:7; 5:4) and is the suffering of the loss of rewards (and the Lord's displeasure) due to the manner of material one built the church with, which one is saved despite the loss of such, not because of. (1 Corinthians 3:8ff)

So you disagree with Jesus on parts of the Bible? 1. Christ established His Church (Catholic Church)?

Rather, it is you who disagree with Jesus on parts of the Bible since as told you before, distinctive Catholic teachings are not manifest in the only wholly inspired substantive authoritative record of what the NT church believed (which is Scripture, in particular Acts through Revelation, which best shows how the NT church understood the gospels).

2. Jesus gave His Church the 7 Sacraments including the Eucharist.

Rather, it is you who disagree with Jesus on parts of the Bible since Scripture does not teach that,

1. Baptism: (As told you already) has as its stated requirement personal wholehearted repentant justifying faith. (Acts 2:38; 8:36,37; 10:43-47; 15:7-9) Nor does the act itself of baptism (ex opere operato) of baptism effect regeneration, or render one actually good enough by being justified by his own interior righteousness and thud being actually good enough to be with God. Which leads to another invention since the the sinful nature that remains manifestly shows he one is not actually good enough to be with God, thus resulting in the [url=https://peacebyjesuscom.blogspot.com/2018/10/did-new-testament-church-believe-in.html]false doctrine of RC Purgatory [/url] in order to become good enough to be with God (and atone for sins).

2. Confirmation: As manifest in the overall spiritually dead consideration of the baptized and confirmed RC's, neither operations by spiritually dead priests effect either regeneration or baptism with the Spirit of Christ in power.

3. Eucharist: Besides other errors, you were abundantly shown that your contrivance of the Lord's supper is not what the NT church believed, based upon what is manifest in the only wholly inspired substantive authoritative record of what the NT church believed (which is Scripture, in particular Acts through Revelation, which best shows how the NT church understood the gospels).

4. Reconciliation: As also shown and explained to you at length, Actually the only exhortation or command in the NT to confess sins is that of confessing them to each other in general, in communion with the body, but not just pastors, and which includes instrumentally obtaining forgiveness for others, and teaches that the power of binding and loosing in provided to all believers of Elijah-type fervent holy faith. Thus rather than regular private confession to pastors - much less Catholic priests - being taught, instead confession to each other and prayer for each other is what is exhorted/commanded, and with intercession of holy believers of fervent faith - which the pastors are normally to be - being able to obtain release from chastisement for sins of ignorance.

5. Anointing of the sick: Likewise rather than being a precursor of death as is the norm with the Catholic sacrament of Last Rites, this [annointing of the sick] is to meant to provide healing.

6. Holy Orders: As also told you, Neither are Catholic priests even legitimate NT pastors

7. Matrimony: Contrary to Scripture, in which no consummated marriage to each other was ever declared to be a non-marriage which is annulled, even those which were entered into upon false pretenses (like uncle Laban's bait and switch) or with concubines or with non-believers were stated to be marriages, among other conditions within the broad scope Rome allows for annulments. Which effectively means multitudes of RCs do not have valid marriages, though they are presumed innocent until proven guilty.

3. That Jesus told us to do good works even greater. Mt 5:16 John 14:12

And as shown you, it has been evangelicals who have shown far more evidence of regeneration, both in commitment and works of faith and private charity than Catholics relative to their numbers, and Catholics are overall much an admixture of liberals and conservatives, all of which Rome counts as members in life and in death, even Ted Kennedy Catholics.

In Phil 3:;&-16, Paul renounces his religion of Judaism in favor of God’s gifts to us in Christ’s Church.

Likewise souls must turn from the false gospel of Rome of being justified and truly meriting eternal life by the good works that he performs by the grace of God (Trent, Canon 32) with final salvation thru atoning for sins and actually becoming good enough to be with God thru mythical Purgatory, and come to God as sinners knowing their desperate need of salvation, not as a souls saved by their works or church affiliation, but as destitute of any means or merit whereby they may find salvation, and with broken and penitent heart believe on the risen Lord Jesus who alone will save such on His account, by His sinless shed blood. And show this in baptism and following their Lord, in characteristically penitent obedient faith.

The life of faith is like a race, where the prize of salvation has yet to be won since the completion is still in progress.

Actually as said and shown, all those of saving effectual faith are presently saved and would go to be with the Lord at death, and await the judgment seat of Christ which is only for believers, and which is to determine the recompense for works, and not one's salvation. However, as said and shown you, perseverance is essential, as believers are warned against such things as having "an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God." (Hebrews 3:11-12)

What changed your animus toward the Catholic Church, the Mass and good works?

A logical fallacy twofold. Begging the question and resorting to ad hominem as a form of sophistry due to desperate lack of a valid argument.

Another logical fallacy, akin to arguing the since Paul could convince the chief Jews together then why should anyone follow his beliefs? Rather, since you have been repeatedly answered and refuted time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again time and time and time again (not an exhaustive list) but with refutation by Scriptural substantiation and reason overall ignored and instead both-like repetitious "arguments by assertion" of the same counterfeit currency, then your argumentation remains an argument against being a Catholic,.

May God peradventure grant you "repentance to the acknowledging of the truth." (2 Timothy 2:25)