To: Rashputin
After having been born and raised Catholic, I left the Catholic church when I actually picked up the Catholic Bible and read it.
20 posted on
12/16/2020 7:15:52 PM PST by
bella1
(I voted for the Alpha male)
To: bella1
Too bad, so sad, you’re screwed.
22 posted on
12/16/2020 7:25:53 PM PST by
Rashputin
(Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory !!)
To: bella1
I understand your position, I went agnostic in my teens then looked in the evangelical ideas, then looked more deeply into the Bible and corroborated it with 1st century religious and secular history and realized that the Catholic Church (along with the Orthodox, Oriental and Assyrian) truly is the bride of Christ.
38 posted on
12/17/2020 1:01:38 AM PST by
Cronos
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To: bella1
when I actually picked up the Catholic Bible and read itIf I might ask - what did you read that made you think that way?
I ask as reading the Bible had the opposite effect on me:
- On meditating and reading the books of the Bible it did seem clear that there are different ways of interpreting different passage - while we do hold to the 4 senses in scriptural interpretation; the literal, allegorial, moral and anagogical - to which I would add the historical and the linguistic; it is clear that people can interpret different items differently - which is why to me the very concept of sola scriptura fails:
- Even the constitution needs a supreme court to interpret it for different levels
- The moment the gates were opened by Martin Luther, you have multiple interpretations coming around - and quickly: down to the Unitarians appearing in a few years denying the Trinity
- In contrast, the core dogmas of the faith - the Eucharist, no sola fide etc. are shared between not only the Catholic and the Eastern Orthodox but even the Assyrian Church and the Marthomite church (in Persia and India founded by the apostles Bartholomew and Thomas respectively) have the same dogma even though they were out of communion with the Catholic/Orthodox right from around 240 AD
- Sola Fide is also explicitly denied by Jesus Himself (not everyone who says Lord, Lord will be saved) --> Catholics believe that We are saved by faith working through love (see Galatians 5:6) - nothing that precedes justification of the wicked merits justification
To me the way that non-Lutheran groups reject the Eucharist seems to hit directly at the very core of Christianity - the Eucharist, the True Presence of the Body and Blood of Christ is what Christians were put to death for and which Justin Martyr in 150 AD wrote in defense of, so how can one deny that?
85 posted on
06/18/2024 3:59:50 AM PDT by
Cronos
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