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Christian leaders react to Pastor John Piper's condemnation of Trump
Christian Post ^ | 10/24/2020 | Leah MarieAnn Klett,

Posted on 10/24/2020 8:01:49 AM PDT by SeekAndFind


John Piper, founder of DesiringGod.org and chancellor of Bethlehem College & Seminary, speaks at the MLK50 Conference hosted by the Ethics & Religious Liberty Commission of the Southern Baptist Convention and The Gospel Coalition in Memphis, Tennessee,

Christians from across the spectrum have weighed in on influential pastor and author John Piper's op-ed piece criticizing Christians' support for President Donald Trump.

“I think it is a drastic mistake to think that the deadly influences of a leader come only through his policies and not also through his person,” Piper, founder of Desiring God, wrote on Thursday. “Flagrant boastfulness, vulgarity, immorality and factiousness are not only self-incriminating; they are nation-corrupting.”

Though he later clarified he is not voting for either Trump or Biden, Piper said he is “baffled” by the fact that “so many Christians seem to be sure that they are saving human lives and freedoms by treating as minimal the destructive effects of the spreading gangrene of high-profile, high-handed, culture-shaping sin.”

“Christians communicate a falsehood to unbelievers (who are also baffled!) when we act as if policies and laws that protect life and freedom are more precious than being a certain kind of person. The church is paying dearly, and will continue to pay, for our communicating this falsehood year after year,” he wrote.

Piper’s blog post elicited a wide range of responses from Christian and political leaders, from Beth Moore to NFL star Benjamin Watson.

On Twitter, Moore, a popular Bible teacher, said Piper’s comments are consistent with the approach he’s always taken toward politics.

"Re: John Piper. The article yesterday came from the same John Piper I met 20+ years ago. 100% consistent. And if you want a preacher who will only preach what doesn’t offend you, you need to find one who doesn’t preach the Scriptures. There’s plenty out there. Knock yourself out."

"DO NOT SAY in the aftermath of all this madness, why didn’t anybody warn us???"

In a separate tweet, she wrote: “Incalculable damage was done by marrying evangelicalism to republicanism. (Same would be true if it had been Dem party.) My generation is the elder child of this unholy marriage and we are so deeply indoctrinated, we see them as 1 flesh. NO. The church is married to Christ alone.”

Re: John Piper. The article yesterday came from the same John Piper I met 20+ years ago. 100% consistent. And if you want a preacher who will only preach what doesn’t offend you, you need to find one who doesn’t preach the Scriptures. There’s plenty out there. Knock yourself out.— Beth Moore (@BethMooreLPM) October 23, 2020

New York Times bestselling author Joel Richardson said that while he “loves” Piper, “abortion is not merely one of many equally relevant factors in this coming election.”

“To equate @POTUS' sins with the societally acceptable wholesale slaughter of the single most innocent little lambs that this world has to offer is straight up bull,” he wrote.

I love @JohnPiper but abortion is not merely one of many equally relevant factors in this coming election. To equate @POTUS' sins with the societally acceptable wholesale slaughter of the single most innocent little lambs that this world has to offer is straight up bull.— Joel Richardson (@Joel7Richardson) October 23, 2020

Conservative Christian commentator Allie Beth Stuckey added, “Any leftist cheering on John Piper today will be severely disappointed in his views on marriage, gender, abortion and socialism. Piper is not a liberal.”

Any leftist cheering on John Piper today will be severely disappointed in his views on marriage, gender, abortion and socialism. Piper is not a liberal.— Allie Beth Stuckey (@conservmillen) October 22, 2020

In contrast, influential pastor Thabiti Anyabwile called the post “maybe the best blog post I’ve ever read” from Piper.

This is maybe the best blog post I’ve ever read from @JohnPiper: Policies, Persons, and Paths to Ruin | Desiring God https://t.co/jXQP69pZcY— Thabiti Anyabwile (@ThabitiAnyabwil) October 22, 2020

NFL star Benjamin Watson also approvingly shared Piper’s post.

“With a cheerful smile, I will explain to my unbelieving neighbor why my allegiance to Jesus set me at odds with death — death by abortion and death by arrogance. “ ????
- @JohnPiper https://t.co/EYxdgu16NM— Benjamin Watson (@BenjaminSWatson) October 23, 2020



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1 posted on 10/24/2020 8:01:50 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

I think Piper has his candidates confused...


2 posted on 10/24/2020 8:03:23 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (In this circus called the Democrat Party, Biden is the monkey and Harris is the organ grinder...)
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To: SeekAndFind

“Beth Moore.”

There’s the problem.


3 posted on 10/24/2020 8:04:53 AM PDT by fwdude (Pass up too many hills to die on, and you will eventually fall off the edge of the world.)
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To: SeekAndFind

All headed to perdition!


4 posted on 10/24/2020 8:05:02 AM PDT by DarthVader (Not by speeches & majority decisions will the great issues th the day be decided but by Blood & Iron)
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To: SeekAndFind
The Dude needs to go back and re-read Matthew 7. It is by their fruits that you shall know them.

Seriously, am I supposed to vote for the "nice guy" who wants to restrict religious liberty and let babies get murdered?

I look at the fruits coming from Trump's tree--and I want more of them.

5 posted on 10/24/2020 8:05:49 AM PDT by Lysandru (Fnord)
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To: SeekAndFind

Critics of the critics are claiming that Piper never mentioned Trump by name in his piece. But anyone with two brain cells to rub together can see his implication as plain as day.


6 posted on 10/24/2020 8:05:55 AM PDT by fwdude (Pass up too many hills to die on, and you will eventually fall off the edge of the world.)
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To: gov_bean_ counter

I’d say his orifices are cross-connected.


7 posted on 10/24/2020 8:07:11 AM PDT by bigbob (Trust Trump. Trust the Plan)
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To: SeekAndFind

IF Biden wins and the Senate flips, within 12-18 months, there will not be a church or a synagogue left open. ALL will be closed, burned or torn down utilizing “hate crime” laws.
So this “holier than thou” Mr. Piper might want to stop and think about that or a few minutes.
We did not elect President Trump because he was some kind of saint...he isn’t. We elected him to do a job...and a nasty one at that.


8 posted on 10/24/2020 8:07:23 AM PDT by lgjhn23 (Libs are a virus.....the DemoVirus!!)
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To: SeekAndFind

He looks like an old hippie wearing a pleather jacket.


9 posted on 10/24/2020 8:07:31 AM PDT by shelterguy
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To: SeekAndFind
when we act as if policies and laws that protect life and freedom are more precious than being a certain kind of person.

So, should Daniel have stopped supporting Cyrus, an idol worshiper, since his "character" was more important than getting the Israelites back into Israel?
10 posted on 10/24/2020 8:08:00 AM PDT by wbarmy (I chose to be a sheepdog once I saw what happens to the sheep.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Is he a fascist? I see the salute


11 posted on 10/24/2020 8:08:06 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Joe Biden- "First thing I'd do is repeal those Trump tax cuts." (May 4th, 2019))
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To: SeekAndFind

Did he become a millionaire resettling refugees in MN ?


12 posted on 10/24/2020 8:08:28 AM PDT by libh8er
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To: SeekAndFind

Eliminate the church’s religious tax exemption...terminate any federal funding the school may receive...disallow any federally insured/granted student loans. These folks can’t play both sides.


13 posted on 10/24/2020 8:08:39 AM PDT by moovova
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To: SeekAndFind

This guy is a crook..he is worth 17 million...a false prophet.


14 posted on 10/24/2020 8:12:08 AM PDT by dpetty121263
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To: fwdude
She is very knowledgeable on the Bible though. But who are we supposed to vote for if not voting for what a candidate says their policies will be? I'll never forget someone saying to me that they were voting for Clinton because when he spoke it was " come play in the park with me" and when Dole spoke it was "keep off the grass!" In the case of DJT, I am voting for his policies and his person. He has done what he said he would, which goes to his credibility as a person.
On the issue of abortion alone, how any believer could vote for anyone whose policy is to murder is... mind-blowing.
15 posted on 10/24/2020 8:12:22 AM PDT by small farm girl (....)
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To: Lysandru

Biden is no “Nice Guy”. That is a persona that was created by the lying media and Democrats. He is only nice in the sense of a used car salesman, who has a crooked smile to your face, while his hand reaches around to your backside to grasp your wallet. You might say that his $40 million Dollar smile has fooled many..


16 posted on 10/24/2020 8:13:20 AM PDT by silent majority rising
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To: SeekAndFind

Beth Moore is a false teacher. And Piper says she’s fine.


17 posted on 10/24/2020 8:13:28 AM PDT by ecomcon
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To: libh8er

His pro refugee comments have been scrubbed from Facebook.


18 posted on 10/24/2020 8:13:50 AM PDT by libh8er
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To: Lysandru
I look at the fruits coming from Trump's tree--and I want more of them.

Smart test. Of course, it won't make you (or I) popular with the Calvinist clique who thinks everything is predestined and you path to heaven (or not) is guaranteed by your professed beliefs.

This same sorry clique will probably vote for Biden in big numbers because they declare they are caring about the poor, patriotism, unit of the country, etc. even if their actual results show the exact opposite.

19 posted on 10/24/2020 8:14:12 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (The politicized state destroys aspects of civil society, human kindness and private charity.)
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To: gov_bean_ counter

Hopefully, his 15 minutes of “fame” are over


20 posted on 10/24/2020 8:14:14 AM PDT by Jrabbit
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