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Christian leaders react to Pastor John Piper's condemnation of Trump
Christian Post ^ | 10/24/2020 | Leah MarieAnn Klett,

Posted on 10/24/2020 8:01:49 AM PDT by SeekAndFind


John Piper, founder of DesiringGod.org and chancellor of Bethlehem College & Seminary, speaks at the MLK50 Conference hosted by the Ethics & Religious Liberty Commission of the Southern Baptist Convention and The Gospel Coalition in Memphis, Tennessee,

Christians from across the spectrum have weighed in on influential pastor and author John Piper's op-ed piece criticizing Christians' support for President Donald Trump.

“I think it is a drastic mistake to think that the deadly influences of a leader come only through his policies and not also through his person,” Piper, founder of Desiring God, wrote on Thursday. “Flagrant boastfulness, vulgarity, immorality and factiousness are not only self-incriminating; they are nation-corrupting.”

Though he later clarified he is not voting for either Trump or Biden, Piper said he is “baffled” by the fact that “so many Christians seem to be sure that they are saving human lives and freedoms by treating as minimal the destructive effects of the spreading gangrene of high-profile, high-handed, culture-shaping sin.”

“Christians communicate a falsehood to unbelievers (who are also baffled!) when we act as if policies and laws that protect life and freedom are more precious than being a certain kind of person. The church is paying dearly, and will continue to pay, for our communicating this falsehood year after year,” he wrote.

Piper’s blog post elicited a wide range of responses from Christian and political leaders, from Beth Moore to NFL star Benjamin Watson.

On Twitter, Moore, a popular Bible teacher, said Piper’s comments are consistent with the approach he’s always taken toward politics.

"Re: John Piper. The article yesterday came from the same John Piper I met 20+ years ago. 100% consistent. And if you want a preacher who will only preach what doesn’t offend you, you need to find one who doesn’t preach the Scriptures. There’s plenty out there. Knock yourself out."

"DO NOT SAY in the aftermath of all this madness, why didn’t anybody warn us???"

In a separate tweet, she wrote: “Incalculable damage was done by marrying evangelicalism to republicanism. (Same would be true if it had been Dem party.) My generation is the elder child of this unholy marriage and we are so deeply indoctrinated, we see them as 1 flesh. NO. The church is married to Christ alone.”

Re: John Piper. The article yesterday came from the same John Piper I met 20+ years ago. 100% consistent. And if you want a preacher who will only preach what doesn’t offend you, you need to find one who doesn’t preach the Scriptures. There’s plenty out there. Knock yourself out.— Beth Moore (@BethMooreLPM) October 23, 2020

New York Times bestselling author Joel Richardson said that while he “loves” Piper, “abortion is not merely one of many equally relevant factors in this coming election.”

“To equate @POTUS' sins with the societally acceptable wholesale slaughter of the single most innocent little lambs that this world has to offer is straight up bull,” he wrote.

I love @JohnPiper but abortion is not merely one of many equally relevant factors in this coming election. To equate @POTUS' sins with the societally acceptable wholesale slaughter of the single most innocent little lambs that this world has to offer is straight up bull.— Joel Richardson (@Joel7Richardson) October 23, 2020

Conservative Christian commentator Allie Beth Stuckey added, “Any leftist cheering on John Piper today will be severely disappointed in his views on marriage, gender, abortion and socialism. Piper is not a liberal.”

Any leftist cheering on John Piper today will be severely disappointed in his views on marriage, gender, abortion and socialism. Piper is not a liberal.— Allie Beth Stuckey (@conservmillen) October 22, 2020

In contrast, influential pastor Thabiti Anyabwile called the post “maybe the best blog post I’ve ever read” from Piper.

This is maybe the best blog post I’ve ever read from @JohnPiper: Policies, Persons, and Paths to Ruin | Desiring God https://t.co/jXQP69pZcY— Thabiti Anyabwile (@ThabitiAnyabwil) October 22, 2020

NFL star Benjamin Watson also approvingly shared Piper’s post.

“With a cheerful smile, I will explain to my unbelieving neighbor why my allegiance to Jesus set me at odds with death — death by abortion and death by arrogance. “ ????
- @JohnPiper https://t.co/EYxdgu16NM— Benjamin Watson (@BenjaminSWatson) October 23, 2020



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To: SeekAndFind

John Piper is what I refer to as a pseudo spiritual snob. A person’s personality that is repugnant to him is cause for condemning the the good work of that individual. Piper has sacrificed his spirit to his ego. Unfortunate...


41 posted on 10/24/2020 8:46:43 AM PDT by PerConPat (A politician is an animal that can sit on a fence and yet keep both ears to the ground--Mencken)
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To: SeekAndFind; Mark17

Piper has never come close to experiencing the vicious 24/7 onslaught of evil President Trump has dealt with.

Yet Trump fights and wins against the forces of evil, moving the ball forward and preserving the Constitution so Piper can criticize him.

I’ve never cared for Piper’s form of legalism, but his current statement reveals his lack of judgement.

Perhaps he is a closet liberal who hopes to sway believers from Trump.

No sale.


42 posted on 10/24/2020 8:50:06 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (I'd rather be anecdotally alive than scientifically dead...)
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To: small farm girl

An open letter to Beth Moore:

https://www.thebereancall.org/content/open-letter-beth-moore


43 posted on 10/24/2020 8:58:35 AM PDT by fwdude (Pass up too many hills to die on, and you will eventually fall off the edge of the world.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Beth Moore didn’t vote for DONALD Trump either!

Meh!


44 posted on 10/24/2020 9:00:53 AM PDT by Guenevere (**See you at the Franklin Graham Prayer March in DC on September 26!**)
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To: georgiegirl

That is so not true!


45 posted on 10/24/2020 9:02:12 AM PDT by Guenevere (**See you at the Franklin Graham Prayer March in DC on September 26!**)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
I’ve never cared for Piper’s form of legalism, but his current statement reveals his lack of judgement.

If Piper is associated with the New Apostolic Reformation, then I got no time for the dude either.

46 posted on 10/24/2020 9:05:56 AM PDT by Mark17 (USAF Retired. Father of a US Air Force commissioned officer, and trained Air Force combat pilot.)
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To: DarthVader
Yes, I have considered that. I think it daily when I read what the Pope has just said. :(
I guess I have limited exposure to Beth through a few Bible studies, I confess I have not followed her beyond that...
47 posted on 10/24/2020 9:09:52 AM PDT by small farm girl (....)
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To: small farm girl

The Pope, Piper and others are too. God is getting ready to drain the swamp in His church!


48 posted on 10/24/2020 9:14:09 AM PDT by DarthVader (Not by speeches & majority decisions will the great issues th the day be decided but by Blood & Iron)
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To: SeekAndFind

Does anyone know Piper’s opinion on Mitt Romney who had the mannerisms that Piper wants but was an advocate of a clearly-false gospel? I know that Piper would prefer someone like Mike Pence but was he okay with Mitt Romney?


49 posted on 10/24/2020 9:27:30 AM PDT by CommerceComet (Joe Biden: Showing his leadership by cowering in the basement like a scared child.)
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To: CommerceComet

Piper probably loved Jimmy Carter.


50 posted on 10/24/2020 9:31:31 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Linda Frances

Bkmk


51 posted on 10/24/2020 9:34:29 AM PDT by kelly4c
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To: AppyPappy

Tithes are down through the church community. Government money to resettle immigrants, I believe, is the mainstay now. Pastors will not preach against their pocketbook... well, some that is.


52 posted on 10/24/2020 9:37:11 AM PDT by Lagmeister
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To: SeekAndFind

“Beth Moore” ??? PULEEEZE!

Women fall for this witch’s bullshirt. She’s a fake, phony, false prophet.


53 posted on 10/24/2020 9:58:44 AM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: Lagmeister

The church we attend is independent, started by college professors who wanted a conservative church. They seem to have plenty of money. I was told “We have plenty of money to do what we want to do but not enough to do what the congregation wants us to do(expand buildings). If they want it badly enough, the money will appear”

It helps when you don’t have to kick money upstairs to the denomination


54 posted on 10/24/2020 9:59:24 AM PDT by AppyPappy (How many fingers am I holding up, Winston?)
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To: CommerceComet

RE: I know that Piper would prefer someone like Mike Pence but was he okay with Mitt Romney?

I am not aware that he ever wrote a similar article when Romney was the Republican candidate for President.


55 posted on 10/24/2020 10:01:21 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: shelterguy

He’s not a lib

Piper is in love with Piper


56 posted on 10/24/2020 10:20:40 AM PDT by wardaddy (I applaud Jim Robinson for his comments on the Southern Monuments decision ...thank you run the tra)
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To: mazz44

Piper is not a liberal....far from it

He’s just an egomaniac


57 posted on 10/24/2020 10:22:00 AM PDT by wardaddy (I applaud Jim Robinson for his comments on the Southern Monuments decision ...thank you run the tra)
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To: SeekAndFind

I found a piece by Piper encouraging people to vote in the 2012 election without stating a preference.


58 posted on 10/24/2020 10:31:42 AM PDT by CommerceComet (Joe Biden: Showing his leadership by cowering in the basement like a scared child.)
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To: wardaddy

Times are changing..

https://itodyaso.wordpress.com/category/w-closet-socialist/


59 posted on 10/24/2020 10:41:27 AM PDT by mazz44 (http://knowledgeofhealth.com/why-animals-age-they-produce-less-vitamin-c-same-for-humans/)
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To: Vigilanteman

You’re pinning this on Calvinists? I haven’t met one yet who wasn’t pro-Trump. The idea that God only really loves His elect and hates all the infidels isn’t exactly a liberal doctrine.


60 posted on 10/24/2020 10:42:42 AM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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