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Evangelical Exodus: Evangelical Seminarians and Their Paths to Rome
The Gospel coalition ^ | August | K. SCOTT OLIPHINT

Posted on 09/18/2020 6:15:39 AM PDT by Cronos

Evangelical Exodus is a compilation of the “conversions” to Roman Catholicism of nine evangelicals, all of whom were connected to Southern Evangelical Seminary (SES). The essays are irenic in their various explanations of these “conversions.” There is no vitriol or substantial invective against SES. All of the authors respect their former seminary and the teaching they received there.

When I first heard of this book, my interest was piqued, in part, because of my own background. I was raised in the Roman Catholic church, and then was converted in the context of dispensational evangelicalism. Because of this background, I was curious how someone could justify moving from evangelicalism to Rome. I detected three significant aspects to this movement from SES to Rome.

First, there is a unifying theme in each of these essays that almost every author recounts. It is explained in the introduction this way:

You may be thinking: How is it possible that such an august group of Catholic converts can arise from one small Evangelical seminary in one geographical region of the United States over only a few short years? One of the reasons, and certainly a very important one, was the type of theological formation that drew many of them to SES. As is well known in the Evangelical world, SES founder Norman Geisler is a self-described Evangelical Thomist, a follower of Saint Thomas Aquinas . . . perhaps the most important Catholic thinker of the second millennium. What Geisler found in Saint Thomas was a theologian whose view on God, faith and reason, natural theology, epistemology, metaphysics and anthropology were congenial to his Evangelical faith. (pp. 13–14)

The emphasis on Thomistic studies at SES led these students and faculty to pursue Thomas beyond the selective bounds of the SES curriculum. “What [these students] discovered is that one cannot easily isolate the ‘Evangelical-friendly Aquinas’ from the ‘Dominican friar Saint Thomas.’ There was no ‘historic Thomas’ with ‘Catholic barnacles.’ There was just Saint Thomas Aquinas, the Catholic priest” (p. 14). The book is dedicated to “The Dumb Ox” himself.

This testimony is echoed in virtually every contributor in the book. One author says that “for all intents and purposes, Saint Thomas Aquinas was the seminary’s ‘patron saint.’ Another author admits that “the first thing that brought me to Catholicism was the Thomism at SES” (p. 167). The notion that one could take only a part of Thomas’s teaching and leave the rest was suspicious to these evangelicals (p. 114; see also pp. 139, 156–57, 194).

The second theme that was not as prominent in each author but nevertheless contributed to their “paradigm shift” (p. 19) from evangelicalism to Rome was an almost total lack of church history in the SES curriculum (pp. 27, 98). This lack explains the contrast that one author saw between the individualism of evangelicalism, and the community offered by Holy Mother Church (p. 66). Without an adequate knowledge of church history, one might think that these are the only two options available. For example, the appearance of bishops, presbyters and deacons in early church documents was interpreted by at least one author as a defense of apostolic succession (pp. 55–56). A couple of authors quote John Henry Newman approvingly, “to be deep in history is to cease to be a Protestant” (pp. 80, 204). Another author notes that his interest in moving from Dispensationalism to a more “communal” view brought him to church history (p. 171). But his movement to a study of church history was viewed in the context of the church as an authority alongside Scripture.

The third aspect of these “conversions” is both most obvious as well as most troubling—the utter insufficiency of the theology taught at SES. This insufficiency, it seems to me, explains each and every “conversion” experience in this book. Though all authors would agree with this insufficiency, their analyses and critiques of it are themselves insufficient, since it motivated their conversion to Rome. Examples abound in the book (and this aspect could fill a book of its own), but we will have to be content with highlighting three of the most significant points.

The first insufficiency that these authors imbibed at SES is apologetic, or perhaps better, epistemological. The Thomism embedded in the SES curriculum spawns a rationalistic evidentialism for a Christian apologetic and as an epistemological base. So, as one author puts, it, “Reason was on prominent display. No questions of theology or morals were left untouched by the power of apologetics and rational demonstration” (p. 113). This is no minor problem. With this method “on prominent display,” for example, the Bible itself is subjected to an evidential epistemological foundation. For example, the founder of SES, Norman Geisler, argues that, though the Word of God is self-authenticating, the Bible is not: “For there must be some evidence or good reasons for believing that the Bible is the Word of God, as opposed to contrary views” (“Reviews,” Christian Apologetics Journal 11.2 [Fall 2013], 173). The evidential arguments used to “prove” the Bible to be the Word of God require that those arguments be the evidential foundation for biblical authority. Thus, biblical authority, by definition, is a derived authority. So also for Christian faith more generally. As one author, reflecting on his training at SES, says, “I had been trained to think that faith was bound up with inferences in such a way that the arguments were what secured faith” (p. 92). (It is worth noting that this particular author recognized that these arguments could only produce probable conclusions and were, thus, insufficient for Christian faith.)

In line with this, the Westminster Confession of Faith, in chapter one, section four, recognized that there are, at bottom, only two options when it comes to biblical authority.

The authority of the Holy Scripture, for which it ought to be believed, and obeyed, dependeth not upon the testimony of any man, or Church; but wholly upon God (who is truth itself) the author thereof: and therefore it is to be received, because it is the Word of God.

Either authority is conferred by some person (e.g., evidences) or church (i.e., Roman Catholicism), or Scripture is authoritative “because it is the Word of God.” (For a recent helpful defense of this view, see John Piper, A Peculiar Glory: How the Christian Scriptures Reveal Their Complete Truthfulness [Wheaton, IL: Crossway, 2016]). If one is trained to believe that authority comes from something outside of Scripture, it is a very short step from “evidential” authority to the authority of the church. In a switch from mere evidences, to churchly authority, Scripture is still dependent on something outside of itself so that one’s epistemology remains intact, but it is now “baptized” by the church. This “evidential” approach even leads one author to affirm the Roman teaching on the “Assumption of Mary” because “no body parts of Mary have ever been found” (p. 196)!

The second insufficiency of the training these authors received is in the notion of “Free Grace” that is prominent at SES (e.g., pp. 17, 140). The notion of “free grace” typically teaches that one can have Christ as Savior, but not as Lord. Thus, “to believe” in Christ has no necessary implications for Christian obedience. Specifically, “free grace” includes a couple of ideas, one that is conducive to Rome and one that, they think, Rome corrects. In agreement with Rome, these authors were taught that “God is not a divine rapist” (p. 53); conversion is not a monergistic work of God, but is synergistic. However, what Rome appears to these authors to correct is the separation between justification and sanctification that this notion of “free grace” requires. Many of these authors rightly saw this separation as unbiblical (p. 60). So, they conclude that Rome’s view of justification that includes both Paul and James—both faith and works—is the only biblical option (p. 62).

The third insufficiency of doctrine these authors were taught is dispensationalism. They don’t mention it as often as they might, but as I read their many reasons for converting to the Roman church, dispensationalism was between every line (see, for example, pp. 17, 39, 62, 66, 97–98, 102, 171, 250–51, 257). As one who was taught dispensationalism, I can testify that its effect is to so minimize the church such that it is practically irrelevant to one’s Christian life. The church’s “parenthetical” status in the dispensational plan of God, on its own terms, can never allow for vibrant Christian worship. These authors think they found such vibrancy in the mass and the sacraments.

There is so much more to say about this book. It concludes with appendices dealing with the canon of Scripture, the notion of Christian Orthodoxy, of sola scriptura and of sola fide. None of these appendices offer anything new to anyone familiar with discussions of these ideas. The book concludes by noting, surprisingly, that there are already enough converts to Rome from SES to fill two more books of this size (p. 209), so we likely haven’t heard the last from this group.

As I read those who moved from evangelicalism to Catholicism, I couldn’t help but think of my own experience. As one who moved from Catholicism to evangelicalism, I have to agree with the authors’ assessment of the insufficiency of evangelicalism.


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1 posted on 09/18/2020 6:15:39 AM PDT by Cronos
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To: Cronos
I still love Scott Hahn’s “Rome sweet Home”.
2 posted on 09/18/2020 6:22:31 AM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is EVIL and needs to be eradicated)
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To: Cronos
They are "synergists" but follow Aquinas? Aquinas was a more moderate version of Augustine when it comes to the so-called "Calvinist" doctrines (which really are Augustinian doctrines, which really are Paul's doctrines, which really are just Christian doctrines) and not very compatible with synergism at all.
3 posted on 09/18/2020 6:28:32 AM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Cronos

The rest of it

“ But the proper movement is not to Rome, but back to Scripture. The best and biblical option in the face of these “conversions” is embedded in the beauty of Reformed theology. A proper understanding of the self-authentication of Scripture, of union with Christ (from which both justification and sanctification necessarily flow), of the church as God’s chosen vehicle of the means of grace (the Word, sacraments, and prayer) for all who are in Christ, brings a biblically rich and glorious response to anyone who would contemplate “swimming the Tiber” (p. 23). The most natural transition for evangelicals is not to Rome, but to the glorious truths that flowed from the Reformation, where alone can be found the self-authenticating Christ of Scripture.”


4 posted on 09/18/2020 6:38:59 AM PDT by FreedomNotSafety
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To: Cronos

To view the Bible as self-authenticating is absurd. Why not be a Mormon, or a Muslim?


5 posted on 09/18/2020 6:47:14 AM PDT by Romulus
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To: Romulus

I don’t know - probably the Southern Evangelical Seminary (SES) would know


6 posted on 09/18/2020 6:51:38 AM PDT by Cronos (Re-elect President Trump 2020!)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Calvinist doctrines most definitely are not Augustinian nor Pauline and, as the Swedish Uppsala synod of 1572 called it unbiblical and banned it from Sweden, leaving only Lutheranism, well..


7 posted on 09/18/2020 6:53:25 AM PDT by Cronos (Re-elect President Trump 2020!)
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To: Cronos

Rome is returning to its pagan roots. Gentiles are returning to paganism. Jews are turning to Christ. Very very end times biblical. Was to be expected, but still kind of unexpected. Which was itself to be expected.


8 posted on 09/18/2020 7:03:36 AM PDT by D Rider
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To: Cronos

Yet Luther’s teaching on soteriology was identical to Calvin’s and Augstine’s and Paul’s.


9 posted on 09/18/2020 7:23:59 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: Romulus

If the Bible is the word of God, then it is not merely self-authenticating, as it is backed not only by itself, but also by the Triune God.

To insist it is not self-authenticating is to deny it is the word of God.


10 posted on 09/18/2020 7:33:59 AM PDT by kosciusko51
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To: Cronos
As one who was taught dispensationalism, I can testify that its effect is to so minimize the church such that it is practically irrelevant to one’s Christian life. The church’s “parenthetical” status in the dispensational plan of God, on its own terms, can never allow for vibrant Christian worship.

This author isn't even trying to hide his ignorance; it's on full display.

11 posted on 09/18/2020 7:47:36 AM PDT by dartuser
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Augustine did not hold to the concept of “the elect caste” as did Calvin — Augustine did hold that many people who are really Christians will and have fall away. Justification, sanctification, glorification are all gratuitous and monergistic, but Augustine clearly was against justification by faith alone.

Augustine’s argument of sola gratia is not quite sola fide as per Cauvin.

Let’s also be clear that augustine did not address limited atonement.

And a big one - Augustine held to single predestination (God chooses the elect, but does not actively reprobate anyone - he simply “passes over” them), while Calvin held to double predestination (God choose the elect to salvation, and the reprobate to damnation).


12 posted on 09/18/2020 7:49:33 AM PDT by Cronos (Re-elect President Trump 2020!)
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To: D Rider

1. Rome isn’t returning to paganism.

2. Gentiles as a whole are not returning to paganism - have you seen the explosion in conversions in India, in China and in Africa?

3. Jews - more than half of them in the years before the destruction of the temple in 70 AD DID turn to Christ. After the destruction of the 2nd temple (as prophesied by Christ in the Olivet discourse, as envisioned by Daniel and as seen in John’s revelations) there were only the Jesus-movement Jews and the Pharisee-jews left as the 2nd temple sects. The Jesus-movement Jews left the term Jews after the Kitos war (where the Zealot Jews massacred gentiles in Cyprus and Cyrene)


13 posted on 09/18/2020 7:52:25 AM PDT by Cronos (Re-elect President Trump 2020!)
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To: circlecity

In what way was Luthers or Cauvin’s or Augustine’s soteriology in any way alike?

Luther’s soteriology evolved through his life and his writings. Which one specifically do you mean? Because in most aspects he strongly disagreed with Cauvin.

And as for Augustine — Augustine held to single predestination (God chooses the elect, but does not actively reprobate anyone - he simply “passes over” them), while Calvin held to double predestination (God choose the elect to salvation, and the reprobate to damnation).


14 posted on 09/18/2020 7:55:23 AM PDT by Cronos (Re-elect President Trump 2020!)
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To: kosciusko51

The Word of God is Jesus. The Bible reveals God’s word and God’s nature. The Bible consists of 73 God-breathed books


15 posted on 09/18/2020 7:58:43 AM PDT by Cronos (Re-elect President Trump 2020!)
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To: dartuser

dartuser “the author isn’t even trying to hide his ignorance; it’s on full display”

err.. the author is Rev. Dr. K. Scott Oliphint (PhD, Westminster Theological Seminary) is professor of apologetics and systematic theology at Westminster Theological Seminary.

EDUCATION
PhD, Westminster Theological Seminary, 1994
ThM, Westminster Theological Seminary, 1984
MAR, Westminster Theological Seminary, 1983
BS, West Texas State University, 1978
CHURCH MINISTRY
Dr. Oliphint is an ordained minister in the Orthodox Presbyterian Church (OPC).

You say he is ignorant? I don’t know about him - you’re probably right


16 posted on 09/18/2020 8:01:05 AM PDT by Cronos (Re-elect President Trump 2020!)
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To: Cronos

I intentionally use the lower case ‘word’ in ‘word of God’, which is identically equal to God’s word, at least in the English language.


17 posted on 09/18/2020 8:10:58 AM PDT by kosciusko51
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To: Cronos
“Augustine held to single predestination (God chooses the elect, but does not actively reprobate anyone - he simply “passes over” them), while Calvin held to double predestination (God choose the elect to salvation, and the reprobate to damnation).”

A distinction without a difference. And Calvin’s position on soteriology in The Institutes is identical to that of Luther’s in “Bondage of the Will” . Which is essentially identical to that argued by Augustine in his three Anti-Pelagian treatises, especially the one entitled “On Predestination”.

18 posted on 09/18/2020 8:14:54 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: circlecity

it is a big difference

Augustine says that God does not damn people. Calvin says that God does damn people


19 posted on 09/18/2020 8:23:13 AM PDT by Cronos (Re-elect President Trump 2020!)
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To: Cronos

The Pope sure seem to have. And yes there is an explosion of Christianity in non traditional christian countries including Iran. Europe has gone completely pagan as has at least half of the US.


20 posted on 09/18/2020 8:24:42 AM PDT by D Rider
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