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Are evangelicals changing their minds about same-sex relationships?
Christian Post ^ | 08/15/2020 | Jim Denison

Posted on 08/15/2020 9:57:19 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind

I’m an evangelical Christian and have had a homosexual boss (for 10 years!), pediatrician, coworkers, direct reports, and friends. (I live in the SF Bay Area—can you tell?)

My mission is to show all of them that evangelical Christians can hate the sin and love the sinner.


41 posted on 08/15/2020 11:10:23 AM PDT by olivia3boys
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To: SeekAndFind

I am a fundamentalist evangelical Christian. I believe as the Bible teaches, that same sex sex is sin. However, we would not turn away such people from attending our church. We would not allow them to teach, preach, or become a member, but we would treat them with Christian love. I do not hate the homosexual; I pity them, because they believe a lie and have been led astray. I believe some same sex couples genuinely love each other, but that doesn’t make it all right, any more than 2 adulterers who genuinely love each other are all right. ALL have sinned and come short of the glory of God, and we all sin in varying degrees, daily. But repentance is the key. “This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all. If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth: But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin. If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us. 1John 1: 5-10


42 posted on 08/15/2020 11:11:38 AM PDT by Flaming Conservative ((Pray without ceasing))
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To: SeekAndFind

It’s all about the money. Big churches make big money. It is so wrong.
But if you look closely the ‘Church’ has left the building. There is a structure standing but there is no church in it.


43 posted on 08/15/2020 11:23:01 AM PDT by Cottonpatch
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To: apillar

Unfortunately for many, which are going to be in for a big surprise of judgement day, God law doesn’t change just because a majority of Christians wanted to “get with the times and be liked by their liberal friends”.


I think this is a big part of it. Some people don’t want to see as “judgemental” or “bigoted” about homosexuality, now that homosexuality has become respected and accepted and “cool”, in the popular culture.

Some Christians have a fear of being perceived as not “with it” or “sticks in the mud”. They want to be perceived as up to date with modern popular culture so they “fit in”.


44 posted on 08/15/2020 11:26:32 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Flaming Conservative

If you let your children or grandchildren socialize and join in activities with these people then you have lost the next generation for Christ.
Gods reasons for Sodom and Gomorrah haven’t changed. Lot was the only one who was saved.
From Sodom and Gomorrah we have the Moabites and Ammonites, which were Lots children from his own daughters. Tough love is also Christian love.


45 posted on 08/15/2020 11:37:53 AM PDT by Cottonpatch
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To: baclava

That’s wrong and disgusting.

And I guess you’ve forgotten all of the televangelists and big name Protestant preachers that have diddled someone besides for their spouse.


46 posted on 08/15/2020 12:05:48 PM PDT by Texas_Guy
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To: SeekAndFind

The simplest solution is to get the government out of the marriage business.

Marriage licenses started as a way to prevent interracial marriages. They’ve become a contentious issue with the advent of “same sex marriage.” Remember Kim Davis?

Why should I need the state’s permission to get married?

Now that the Supreme Court has rammed same-sex marriage down everyone’s throats (on spurious Fourteenth Amendment grounds), the Kim Davises of the world and the Melissa’s Sweet Cakes of the world shouldn’t be forced to lend their support.

Just leave people alone.


47 posted on 08/15/2020 12:18:38 PM PDT by TBP (Progressives lack compassion and tolerance. Their self-aggrandizement is all that matters.)
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To: SeekAndFind

What does God say on the matter?


48 posted on 08/15/2020 12:18:49 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Well played.


49 posted on 08/15/2020 12:24:13 PM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: Yosemitest; All

There will be NO HOMOSEXUALS ( NOT ONE ) in the afterlife.


I certainly agree with you. So does the bible...

Revelation 21: 27But nothing unclean will ever enter it, nor anyone who practices an abomination or a lie, but only those whose names are written in the Lamb’s book of life.

As professed Christians we set our lives apart for holy use. We are to be holy because God is holy. Those found in the Lamb’s book of life will have kept God’s law and commandments.

If it’s an abomination in the old testament, it’s an abomination in the new testament as well.

And something for all to think about: Eating unclean meat is also an abomination and that hasn’t changed in the new testament either, no matter how many people try to say it has or justify it. Eating unclean meat makes you unclean. No difference between that and homosexuality?

Isaiah 65:
3A people that provoketh me to anger continually to my face; that sacrificeth in gardens, and burneth incense upon altars of brick;

4Which remain among the graves, and lodge in the monuments, which eat swine’s flesh, and broth of abominable things is in their vessels;

5Which say, Stand by thyself, come not near to me; for I am holier than thou. These are a smoke in my nose, a fire that burneth all the day.

Isaiah 66:
15For, behold, the LORD will come with fire, and with his chariots like a whirlwind, to render his anger with fury, and his rebuke with flames of fire.

16For by fire and by his sword will the LORD plead with all flesh: and the slain of the LORD shall be many.

17They that sanctify themselves, and purify themselves in the gardens behind one tree in the midst, eating swine’s flesh, and the abomination, and the mouse, shall be consumed together, saith the LORD.


50 posted on 08/15/2020 12:54:20 PM PDT by Philsworld
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To: Texas_Guy

Both sodomy and adultery prevent one from entering into the Kingdom of God, pointing fingers does not help, y’all


51 posted on 08/15/2020 1:23:15 PM PDT by HangnJudge
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To: HangnJudge
Both sodomy and adultery prevent one from entering into the Kingdom of God, pointing fingers does not help

Now hold on their Hoss.... just a minute....

Are you saying....I can lose my salvation by committing a sin ? For the record, I have been born again by the saving waters of baptism, I have been saved by asking Jesus into my heart.... and I proclaim Jesus is my personal Lord and Savior... and so I.am.saved..... and maybe because I am tempted and partake in a sexual impropriety that because of that, I DON’T get my eternal reward?? Who does? Once saved always saved is how I learned it. Who’s got it right here?
52 posted on 08/15/2020 1:47:17 PM PDT by MurphsLaw (“In nomine Patris, et Filii, et Spiritus Sancti...Amen.”)
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To: MurphsLaw

Gods Words, I just work here...
Is there a difference between being saved and entering into Gods Kingdom? I’ve often wondered, but the scripture is clear.


53 posted on 08/15/2020 2:21:38 PM PDT by HangnJudge
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To: MurphsLaw

“Once saved always saved is how I learned it.”

Yes. “The security of the believer” is the thing. I’m not sure about leanings of current “evangelicals”, but Christians cannot lose their salvation.

In John 3:16, when he said, “EVERLASTING life”, he meant everlasting, i.e., forever. No “unless” in there.


54 posted on 08/15/2020 2:26:59 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam (If 100% of us contracted this Covid Virus only 99.997% would be left to tell our story.)
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To: Texas_Guy

Pope on gay priests: “Who am I to judge”white

Yeah, just don’t get caught diddling little boys in public

‘The Living Church’ just reflects society, it doesn’t lead, do as you please


55 posted on 08/15/2020 2:27:30 PM PDT by baclava
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To: HangnJudge
Gods Words, I just work here...

Not helpful....really need an answer......Not evasiveness......
Do you believe then One can be saved... and then lose Heaven?
56 posted on 08/15/2020 3:19:39 PM PDT by MurphsLaw (“In nomine Patris, et Filii, et Spiritus Sancti...Amen.”)
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To: MayflowerMadam; MurphsLaw

“but Christians cannot lose their salvation”


Those who claim to be Christians and to follow Christ “do His commandments (obey). Those who don’t (unrepentant) will be “without.”

Revelation 21:
7He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.

8But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars—they will be consigned to the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death.”

Revelation 22:
14Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

15For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.

If you receive the Mark of the Beast are you still saved? The bible says no.


57 posted on 08/15/2020 3:20:05 PM PDT by Philsworld
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To: SeekAndFind
What grace will you pay forward today?

Grace involves repentance. If a gay person repents praise God.

I have several gay patients and I treat them with dignity. But I will not accept nor celebrate their lifestyle any more than I would celebrate adultery, alcoholism or other sins.

58 posted on 08/15/2020 3:29:14 PM PDT by Gamecock ("O God, break the teeth in their mouths." - Psalm 58:6)
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To: SeekAndFind

From what I have seen, they mostly already have. Once the older generation of leaders start dying off, it will happen.

Evangelicals have few hard and fast doctrines when it comes to sex. Considering that divorce is now accepted almost universally, and most Evangelicals under 40 are just fine with extra marital sex and are “loving” to gay couples, it won’t take long.


59 posted on 08/15/2020 3:34:05 PM PDT by redgolum (If this culture today is civilization, I will be the barbarian)
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To: TBP

Wrong.
Government is interested in marriage (and has been for recorded history) for two main reasons.
1. The raising of the next generation
2. Disposition of property after the death of the parent.

Look at history before you start repeating the Big Lie, though that is a great example of the slope evangelicals are heading down.


60 posted on 08/15/2020 3:37:39 PM PDT by redgolum (If this culture today is civilization, I will be the barbarian)
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