Your comment: “only a diety can be blasphemed so you do consider Mary part of the godhead.”
Yes, you are right, I shouldn’t have used the word blaspheme with the Blessed Mother. My mistake. I should have used disrespectful. I should have referred to your blasphemy (a mortal sin) against Jesus.
God was very specific about every exact detail of the ark (Ex 25-30). It was a place where God himself would dwell (Ex 25:8). God wanted his wordsinscribed on stonehoused in a perfect container covered with pure gold within and without. How much more would he want his WordJesusto have a perfect dwelling place! If the only begotten Son were to take up residence in the womb of a human girl, would he not make her flawless?
The Virgin Mary is the living shrine of the Word of God, the Ark of the New and Eternal Covenant. In fact, St. Lukes account of the Annunciation of the angel to Mary nicely incorporates the images of the tent of meeting with God in Sinai and of the temple of Zion. Just as the cloud covered the people of God marching in the desert (cf. Nm 10:34; Dt 33:12; Ps 91:4) and just as the same cloud, as a sign of the divine mystery present in the midst of Israel, hovered over the Ark of the Covenant (cf. Ex 40:35), so now the shadow of the Most High envelops and penetrates the tabernacle of the New Covenant that is the womb of Mary (cf. Lk 1:35). (Pontifical Council for the Pastoral Care of Migrants and Itinerant People, The Shrine: Memory, Presence and Prophecy of the Living God)
https://www.catholic.com/magazine/print-edition/mary-the-ark-of-the-new-covenant
Does the Bible say we should approach the saints with our prayers? Yes, in two places. In Revelation 5:8 John saw the Lamb, Christ Jesus, on a throne in the midst of four beasts and 24 elders. When the Lamb took the book with the seven seals, the 24 elders fell down before the Lamb in worship, each one having a harp and golden bowls of incenses, which are the prayers of the saints.
Similarly, in Revelation 8:3-4 we are told that something similar happened when the Lamb opened the seventh seal of the book: Another angel came and stood on the altar, having a golden censer, and many incenses were given to him, in order that he will give it with the prayers of all the saints on the golden altar before the throne. And the smoke of the incenses went up with the prayers of the saints from the hand of the angel before God.
These texts give us a way to understand how the saints offer our prayers for us. Our prayers are like nuggets of incense. They smell sweet and good. The 24 elders around the throne, who are saints, and the angels offer these nuggets of incense for us. They set them on fire before the throne of God.
This is a beautiful image of how the intercession of the saints works. Because the saints are so close to the fire of Gods love and because they stand immediately before him, they can set our prayers on fire with their love and release the power of our prayers.
https://www.catholic.com/magazine/print-edition/the-bible-supports-praying-to-the-saints
Jesus exhorts us to pray not simply for ourselves, but for others, including praying for our persecutors (Matt. 5:44), because Jesus knows that intercessory prayers draw us closer together in him, and can also help foster our enemies conversion. In that light, theres no competition when we ask someone to pray for us, including petitioning Mary and the saints, because they are collaborators with God, not competitors. Indeed, apart from Jesus they (and we praying for each other on earth) could do nothing (John 15:1-5). And so we are members of the mystical body of Christ and thus haveor should haveconcern for the spiritual well-being of others (1 Cor. 12:25-26).
The doctrine of the Assumption of Mary began with a historical event to which Scripture alludes and that been believed in the Church for 2,000 years. It was passed down in the oral tradition of the Church and developed over the centuries, but it was always believed by the Catholic faithful. Let us examine the facts:
1. Archaeology has revealed two tombs of Mary, one in Jerusalem and one in Ephesus. The fact that Mary lived in both places explains the two tombs. But what is inexplicable apart from the Assumption is the fact that there is no body in either tomb. And there are no relics. Anyone who peruses early Church history knows that Christian belief in the communion of saints and the sanctity of the bodyin radical contrast to the Gnostic disdain for the fleshled early Christians to seek out with the greatest fervor relics from the bodies of great saints. Cities, and, later, religious orders, would fight over the bones of great saints.
This is one reason why we have relics of the apostles and so many of the greatest saints and martyrs in history. Yet never was there a single relic of Marys body? As revered as Mary was, this would be very strange, except for the fact of the assumption of her body.
https://www.catholic.com/magazine/online-edition/the-assumption-of-mary-in-history
So you get called out on referring to Mary as divinity, and your response is to cop to it, and then literally take the glory that is due to Christ alone and give it to another AGAIN?
Dude, you already let slip that you worship Mary when you accused metmom of blasphemy specifically against her. All the backpedaling in the world isn’t going to weasel you out of that one.
Better to confess that you were worshipping a false goddess and repent of it than insist that you didn’t REALLY mean it.
HA! This was about the physical Ark of the Covenant in the Jewish Temple. NOT about Mary.
How much more would he want his Word—Jesus—to have a perfect dwelling place!
Here is where you went off the Biblical rails, making up things that are not in Scripture.
In Revelation 5:8 John saw the Lamb, Christ Jesus, on a throne in the midst of four beasts and 24 elders. When the Lamb took the book with the seven seals, the 24 elders fell down before the Lamb in worship, “each one having a harp and golden bowls of incenses, which are the prayers of the saints.”
NEITHER passage says ANYONE EVER prayed to a saint. It simply says the elders presented incense, which were the prayers of the saints.
Further, no Apostle EVER prayed to a departed saint in Scripture.
Totally made up by people after paganism entered the Roman religion.
This is a beautiful image of how the intercession of the saints works. Because the saints are so close to the fire of God’s love and because they stand immediately before him, they can set our prayers on fire with their love and release the power of our prayers.
Totally made up again.
The doctrine of the Assumption of Mary began with a historical event to which Scripture alludes and that been believed in the Church for 2,000 years. It was passed down in the oral tradition of the Church and developed over the centuries, but it was always believed by the Catholic faithful.
Never in Scripture ever. Totally made up. Convenient no one ever wrote this down when it purportedly happened. No Apostle taught it. No writings before 100 ad reference it. Bogus.
Your whole post is just made up things ADSUM.
Jesus is the ark, not Mary.
Mary was merely pregnant for 9 months and gave birth.
She didnt need to be perfect not sinless. Jesus could handle having an imperfect, sinful mom.
Interesting.
But Rome really can't get past the bad doctrine it taught to at least seven churches in Asia mentioned by an angel in the first three chapters.
Wanna address those??
The fact that Mary lived in both places explains the two tombs.
FACT??
I can see where the Beloved disciple possibly DIED at Ephesus:
...but that does NOT place Mary there.
There you go again.
Stating something is FACT merely because you've been taught it is true; without evidence.