I believe in Jesus that established the Catholic Church and the Sacraments and told us to go forth preach and baptize all nations with His Truth.
I don’t believe false prophets and false teachers (or those that play games with the Word of God) from the protestant heresy.
As you know, Catholics follow the Apostles in calling our priests and spiritual fathers as “Fathers”. If you read the full passage, then you would understand that Jesus used hyperbole to state a warning that no one should pridefully desire honorific titles. it was not meant literally. Jesus often used “Amen, amen”, “Truly, truly” or Verily, verily” to emphasize Truth in His Words. He didn’t use those expressions here, but did to inform us that His Body and Blood was necessary for our salvation In John 6.
You keep repeating the same old message which is an example of lack of faith and understanding of God’s Word. Heretics like to take a phrase out of context and attempt to change the meaning. Have you ever considered whether you are “in uttering against God - inwardly or outwardly - words of hatred, reproach or defiance”?
As we all know, Catholics disobey the clear, concise, unequivocal command of Jesus to NOT use the title of “Father” for religious leaders.
Let me get this straight...you assert Jesus was using "hyperbole" and not speaking literally when He commanded His disciples to not honor each other by the title of "Father", but He was NOT using hyperbole or figurative language when He said we must "eat his body and drink his blood" to have eternal life??? You accept by faith that the wafer is mystically changed even though there is no physical evidence of a change taking place and you claim that ONLY "your" priests can do this. NOWHERE in Scripture will you find this! Your religion had to invent the dogma of "transubstantiation" at the Fourth Council of the Lateran in 1215 to try to explain it.
NOBODY denies that Christ's body and blood was necessary for our salvation. What is disagree with is that Jesus meant we literally have to eat his flesh and drink his blood rather than by FAITH we remember His sacrifice for us in regular remembrances with each other as the Body of Christ. We "eat" and "drink" Him by faith! We believe He is our Savior and that His body was broken for us and His blood was shed for our sins. THAT is the faith that matters.
You keep repeating the same old message which is an example of lack of faith and understanding of God’s Word. Heretics like to take a phrase out of context and attempt to change the meaning. Have you ever considered whether you are “in uttering against God - inwardly or outwardly - words of hatred, reproach or defiance”?
You guys are ones to talk!!!
Which does not make it any more true than your other assertions that are a poor excuse for a argument.
I don’t believe false prophets and false teachers (or those that play games with the Word of God) from the protestant heresy.
"The" protestant heresy?! As shown and ignored except for more parroting of refuted propaganda, it is distinctive Catholic teachings are not manifest in the only wholly inspired substantive authoritative record of what the NT church believed (which is Scripture, in particular Acts through Revelation, which best shows how the NT church understood the gospels).
As you know, Catholics follow the Apostles in calling our priests and spiritual fathers as “Fathers”.
Wrong again, since while I do not agree that a true believer cannot refer to himself as father and be called such by them, however, it is wrong to adopt that as a title that all are to call you since you are not their spiritual father, and Catholic priests are not NT pastors, and are not spiritual fathers via baptizing souls, since contrary to Cath doctrine, that act itself (ex opere operato) does not effect regeneration. Thus the typical way Catholic priests are fathers is by making souls the child of hell like themselves (cf. Matthew 23:15)
If you read the full passage, then you would understand that Jesus used hyperbole to state a warning that no one should pridefully desire honorific titles.
I actually agree with "cal no man father" being hyperbole, as well as the censure of wearing ostentatious distinctive clothing in order to receive honor, yet both of which Rome disregards, from ostentatious garb to illustrious titles and calling her priests fathers as a formal title.
Let me not, I pray you, accept any man’s person, neither let me give flattering titles unto man. For I know not to give flattering titles; in so doing my maker would soon take me away. (Job 32:21-22)
Jesus often used “Amen, amen”, “Truly, truly” or Verily, verily” to emphasize Truth in His Words. He didn’t use those expressions here, but did to inform us that His Body and Blood was necessary for our salvation In John 6.
And thus you must answer the question asked before in post 45 and ignored, which is how can you take John 6:53 literally, "Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you," (John 6:53) and yet be a V2 Catholic when Lumen Gentium and other modern teaching generally affirms of properly baptized Protestants - all of which deny the Catholic Real Presence and according to Rome lack the necessary priest to confect the Eucharist - "that those who are baptized in these communities are, by Baptism, incorporated in Christ, and are "in a certain, although imperfect, communion with the Catholic Church," being "joined with us in the Holy Spirit" who "is operative among them," such as the "many who take Sacred Scripture as a norm of belief and a pattern of life" and lovingly believe in the Trinity.? Sources. Answer and do not resort to obscurantism.
You keep repeating the same old message which is an example of lack of faith and understanding of God’s Word.
Rather, most all your posts are simply continually asserting beliefs that have been refuted and one can only wish were established. Including the premise that God’s Word is whatever Rome says it is. Thus let me ask you again another question you ignore, which is do you think a Catholic can obtain an indulgence by posting as you do here?
What else do you call him because just like your mother of God, THAT Jesus is not in the scriptures...
Jesus of the scriptures established the Jewish church and then had Paul establish the Roman/Samaritan churches long after Jesus died and there were no sacraments...
And the baptism you guys teach/perform is the baptism of John (or it would be if those babies could climb into a tub of water)...
You guys claim yours is the Church of the scriptures but you have absolutely nothing to back that up, except the claims of your Church...The Bible does not at all bear witness to that claim...So you can claim it all day long but it still won't mean anything...
Of COURSE you do! It is quite obvious from your posts.
The problem is; there is no evidence that HE did, but we have Scripture that says He didn't.
1. the 'letter' in Acts 15
2. the fact of seven churches in Asia being IMMEDIATELY off the rails after Jesus has returned to heaven.
Does Acts chapter fifteen REALLY sound anything at ALL like Catholicism??
Does the warnings to the 7 churches sound ANYTHING like solid Catholic doctrine?
Then why take a chance and APPLY them?
Sorry; but I do NOT 'know'!
There is NO evidence; in the Scriptures that Rome assembled; that shows this occurring.
No they don't...There weren't any priests in the church...There were no rituals...Priests wearing long robes (as Catholic priests do) were condemned and forbidden...For you to call these robed, unmarried priests Father in violation of the scriptures is ludicrous...
There's not a single piece of scripture that calls anyone in the church Father...
What you're not mentioning is that the bible is not a source for Catholic doctrine or dogma...This comes in handy when you want to indoctrinate the rare Catholic who questions your knowledge of the church and you point to the corrupted writing of some of the your Church Fathers as well as your catechism, as if they are far more authoritative than the actual words of God in scripture...
It's funny that while you've been corrected with scripture time after time after time, you just continue to ignore those plain scriptures and repeat your Catholic spiel...Your thick skin and persistence I suppose is commendable...And of course you can't buckle under any scripture truth since you would ultimately lose your income and abode not to mention prestige...
It should be remarkable to the occasional Catholic who might wander onto these threads see posts and commentary from born again Christians from all over the Country and even the World who never meeting each other agree on what the scriptures say and mean, for the most part...How's that possible???
Rom 8:15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.
We do not need a long robed priest to give us 'last rites'...We got the 'first rights' the moment we accepted Jesus...We do not fear any place called purgatory...
Rom 8:16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:
Apparently you're not familiar with this operation...