Your comment: “Now your charges against me are false. It isn’t “changing the subject” to respond on a subject that you introduced, which is what you *really* meant when you spoke of “40,000 versions of His truth.” The Lord sees through us all and can’t be fooled and will judge our claims here.”
You attempted to change my words and the meaning of what I wrote. You made a false statement in the form of question and continue to do so.
My opinion is that most protestants follow heresy and attempt to change God’s Truth in the Bible as they accept their own personal fallible opinions. They also do not accept that Jesus established the Catholic Church, the Sacraments and Jesus delegated the authority to St Peter and his successors, among other revealed truths.
Your personal fallible false opinion: “And the Catholic Church differs from the church established by Jesus in many ways.
The Bible states differently and you can show no historical connection to any other Church. Yes there have been several heresies that have been defended against successfully and the Church remains strong and holy in spite of many following worldly ways like the rest of mankind. Yes many sinners are working towards their salvation and if some sinners don’t repent and confess their sins they will endure the consequences.
Creation I believe “God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit out of love for us made the world out of nothing, wanting to share divine life and love with us. The original creation became a new creation in Jesus Christ.”
That is why I want to follow God’s will as best that I can.
Your comment; “failure of leadership all the time that the Catholic shepherds haven’t taught the Bible and its primary importance as evangelical Christians have”
The Gospel and readings from both the Old Testament and the New Testament have been included in the Mass for 2000 years (even before the Bible was written or the protestant religions were formed by man). Why do you continue to lie about the Catholic Church? Are you a baptized catholic that has left the practice of the Catholic faith?
If I offended you or anyone else here, it was not my intention. My intention is to inform about God’s Word and contradict false statements about the Catholic faith and God’s Word.
Go for it!!
Tell me, Adsum, how could readings from BOTH the Old and New Testaments be included in the Mass for 2000 years if according to you it was "before the Bible was written"??? Wanna walk that one back?
The person who’s been misrepresenting things in our conversation is you.
Since you say that don’t believe that you are, but I am, and this is a basic matter of bearing honest witness, then go ask some Protestants AND also some Catholics here about how any one of them would interpret your remark. It’s hard for me to believe that even one other Catholic here would support what you’ve claimed about your “40,000 versions of His truth” comment and our exchange about it. And given this concerns honesty, this is an important matter that should be brought before other Christians.
I’ve had to wonder, too, if many of today’s devout Catholics would have accepted Jesus for who He claimed to be in the days of His earthly ministry, or if their unquestioned faith would have been in their ancient religious system as controlled by their leadership, who wrongfully and faithlessly rejected Him and determined He should die.
On Catholicism departing from God’s Word, there’s no New Testament office of priest, for one thing.
In the fullness of time God brought about the Protestant churches. Even the faithful one’s aren’t perfect, but neither was the Roman Catholic either. Or the Orthodox, for that matter. The perfection is in the Good Shepherd, and simple Gospel message of believing on Him to save us from the eternal consequences of our sin against God.
And on Creation, do you believe that Genesis is a true and accurate and literal history of how God created man and the universe, and of our fall from grace? And you didn’t even begin to answer on what your church believes.
What’s more, so what if Scripture is read at mass. I’ve never been Catholic and I know that. But I don’t believe, IIRC, that it was in the old Latin mass, at least in the vernacular. And Scripture must really be learned, by effort, which is why evangelical Christians have emphasized reading it, studying it and memorizing it.
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Besides ADSUM, you’ve been pinged, both Catholics and Protestants who’ve been on this thread, for your judgment on this exchange between ADSUM and I. Did or would any of you read his remark on Protestants having “40,000 versions of His truth” as referring to anything other than denominations?
“To: Faith Presses On
“My comment: “Yes. Good advice, but one needs the correct understanding of God’s Truth. Jesus did not teach 40,000 versions of His Truth.”
“Your comment: “There aren’t tens of thousands of Protestant denominations”
“If you reread the original posting, there was no mention of denominations, but 40,000 versions (actually more as each protestant can make their own interpretation) of God’s Truth. You should admit that God did not make 40,000 versions of His Truth, man did with the help of Satan?...”
“184 posted on 8/11/2020, 6:12:58 AM by ADSUM”
http://freerepublic.com/focus/religion/3872796/posts?page=184#184
And I’ll note that ADSUM also used basically the same expression here too:
http://freerepublic.com/focus/religion/3872796/posts?page=32#32
If you want to see all of our exchanges about this, you can look back starting from the last reply here:
http://freerepublic.com/focus/religion/3872796/posts?page=441#441
He made a number of accusations against me related to this exchange so I’d appreciate all who would offer their opinions here. Thank you in advance
Besides ADSUM, you’ve been pinged, both Catholics and Protestants who’ve been on this thread, for your judgment on this exchange between ADSUM and I. Did or would any of you read his remark on Protestants having “40,000 versions of His truth” as referring to anything other than denominations?
“To: Faith Presses On
“My comment: “Yes. Good advice, but one needs the correct understanding of God’s Truth. Jesus did not teach 40,000 versions of His Truth.”
“Your comment: “There aren’t tens of thousands of Protestant denominations”
“If you reread the original posting, there was no mention of denominations, but 40,000 versions (actually more as each protestant can make their own interpretation) of God’s Truth. You should admit that God did not make 40,000 versions of His Truth, man did with the help of Satan?...”
“184 posted on 8/11/2020, 6:12:58 AM by ADSUM”
http://freerepublic.com/focus/religion/3872796/posts?page=184#184
And I’ll note that ADSUM also used basically the same expression here too:
http://freerepublic.com/focus/religion/3872796/posts?page=32#32
If you want to see all of our exchanges about this, you can look back starting from the last reply here:
http://freerepublic.com/focus/religion/3872796/posts?page=441#441
He made a number of accusations against me related to this exchange so I’d appreciate all who would offer their opinions here. Thank you in advance