Should we Evangelize Protestants ?

The Catholic Thing ^ | August 9th, 2020 | Casey Chalk

[Mark17]

Ok, there is a ton of source material out there, about the Queen of Heaven, or the worship of Nimrod and Semiramis. I believe she has had different names, in different cultures and languages, but I believe she is alive and well in the RCC. I think the false religion of Nimrod, was, in one form or another, widespread in the time of Jesus, and in some ways, still is today.
Christmas, gift giving, Easter, are from the religion of Nimrod. Some say, let’s put Christ back in Christmas. I don’t think Christ was EVER in Christmas, to begin with. It was a pagan festival, from the beginning.

[RevelationDavid]

“Should we Evangelize Protestants?”

To what end? What is your intent in the evangelization?

[Luircin]

The specific day of Christmas comes from a pagan source, yes, but not a pagan festival. It was a belief of the time that a great person would be concieved and die on the same day, and March 25 was generally accepted as the day of Christ’s death. Thus, December 25 for 9 months before.

In any case, Christmas is just a time most Christians put aside to remember the birth of Christ. If you wanna do it on another day, more power to you, but I think it’s a great day to share Christ with unbelievers.

[Mark17]

I've often wondered who actually takes sin more serious, Catholics and others who depend on their works for their salvation

I can only answer for myself. As a Catholic, when I was younger, I could avoid grotesque mortal sins, whatever those were. As I got a little older, grotesque sins, became harder and harder to resist. I finally got to a point, that I gave up, and just starting sinning, like there was no tomorrow. It’s not that I necessarily wanted to do this. I just felt powerless to resist sin, so I no longer resisted it. Now, of course, I am no longer a catholic, so things are different. I am FAR from perfect, but I am not nearly the grotesque sinner I was, when I was a catholic. 👍

[boatbums]

I think it's because they mistakenly believe Mary had to BE a sinless vessel in order to bear Jesus' human body. Since he is God, and God cannot be in the presence of sin - even though Jesus was surrounded with sinful people His whole ministry as well as family members he grew up with. They also have some strange ideas about Jesus' birth, how that Mary was spared from labor pains (a consequence of Eve's sin per Genesis 3:16) and she remained an "intact" virgin (not humanly possible unless she had a C-section). The veneration/worship of Mary and the belief that those who serve her will be saved and those who don't will be condemned also play into their refusal to rely upon the Scriptures for their doctrines. Of course, Mary was a human woman, of the lineage of David, a chaste virgin and a follower of Jehovah. It doesn't seem to interfere with their rejection of predestination when they assert Mary was preserved from all sin from her birth (saying she did not inherit the Adamic sin nature of which God says we ALL do) but then insist that she had a choice when the angel Gabriel announced she would bear the Messiah. What if she said no? Would she get a retroactive sin nature??? Did God have a Plan B???

I've come to realize that it's usually pointless to argue with them about Mary. She means more to them than Jesus Christ. Even Luther talked about the idea they were taught that Jesus was hard and aloof, judgmental and stern, and that they would have better luck appealing to His Mom since she was sweeter and nicer. Astonishing, really. At least we know why we don't agree with them on their Marian dogmas and we have Scripture AND reason to back it up. It is definitely NOT because we hate her or disrespect her. Jesus is who saves us - He is the object of our worship. His glory He will not share with another.

[metmom]

I am not confused at all.

Catholicism forfeited the right to call itself a *church* over a thousand years ago.

It’s history is rife with homosexuality, immorality, greed, corruption, murder, extortion, etc.

It is not *one* as there is a schism with the EO and has been for over a thousand years, with each calling itself the *one true church* and the other in schism.

It is not holy by ANY stretch of the imagination.

It is not catholic as it does not encompass or tolerate any dissent or difference of opinion.

Nor is it apostolic as there is nothing in Catholicism that even begins to resemble the early church as recorded int he book of Acts and addressed in Paul’s epistles.

Romanists can make that claim all they want but it falls really flat in light of the reality of the fruit Catholicism produces.

[metmom]

Ironic, isn’t it?

They tell you you have to become Catholic and jump through all the Catholic hoops to get to heaven, and then even when you do, they tell you that you can’t be sure you’re saved after all so there’s no guarantee of heaven.

Well, then, if the Catholic hoops of baptism, penance, eating Jesus and drinking His blood, can’t guarantee you a spot in heaven, they why even bother?

[metmom]

The Blessed Mother is the Mother of God, Jesus Christ and according to human tradition it is the mother of the King that is the Queen in a kingdom.

Human tradition? You have to appeal to HUMAN TRADITION to justify your claims?

That's real authoritative.

So if Mary is the mother of God, then she's the mother of God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit.

Say, isn't she supposed to be the faithful SPOUSE of the Holy Spirit?

What's she doing marrying her son (the Holy Spirit) and then going on to enter a marriage contract with Joseph? How is that faithful?

How is that not incestuous?

[Mark17]

In any case, Christmas is just a time most Christians put aside to remember the birth of Christ. If you wanna do it on another day, more power to you, but I think it’s a great day to share Christ with unbelievers.

I DO love the time, and use it to spread the gospel. I just try to keep it in perspective, and not put too much emphasis on it. In the grand scheme of life, I try not to think too much, that one day, is more important than any other day. 😁🤪

[Mom MD]

Amen. Yes Mary was blessed. She likely spent more time with Jesus than any other human. She was at His feet when He died for us. Likely she saw Him after the Resurrection as well. She was blessed because of what God did for her not because of any merit or sinlessness of her own. There is no queen of heaven only a King. God would not have left that important a detail out of scripture.

The real travesty is painting the One who died for us and freely gives us all things as a petty tyrant that has to be appeased by mommy before grudgingly giving us anything. Christ rushes to meet us in our need and supplies far more than we could ever imagine. He eagerly wants fellowship with us - as much as that boggles the mind. God is not our stern and aloof father but our loving daddy. Mary worship turns the gospel of grace on its head and puts another equal or even superior to God - in catholic mythology Christ has to obey Mary.... What a tragedy that robs catholics is the relationship God desires.

[metmom]

Accordingly, the Blessed Mother is the Queen of Heaven.

In what Bible?

You got a book, chapter, and verse for that?

Or is that more Catholic wishful thinking, fabricated and labeled as *sacred tradition* to try to put the validity if the claim beyond questioning?

[boatbums]

Ditto! :o)

[metmom]

Catholics idolize Mary and some worship her, believing she is more than human and only slightly below Christ.

They do and you can tell by the powers and abilities they attribute to her; thing which only God can do.

[metmom]

Stealing that......

[MHGinTN]

BUT, to put the finer point on it, there will be NO CHRISTIANS in hell. You might want to make a distinction there, regarding why one goes to hell or not, since it is not a denominational sortin’ stall sort of thing.

[Mom MD]

I love Christmas and Easter. It gives us special time to reflect on what Christ has done for us and share that with the world. But beyond that I love the celebration. Heaven rings with love joy and laughter and these great festivals are a way to share in that joy. We see in such a dim way the joy that awaits! gathering together as a people to sing joyous praise is as close to Heaven as we can get right now. And the Joy of easter morning is much more poignant after walking through the depths of the preceding days. What a God we serve. I cannot wait to celebrate with Christ in Heaven some say very soon. These are not pagan festivals though Satan tries to ruin every move of God with cheap imitation

[aMorePerfectUnion]

Amen.

They had one job - the message of salvation.

They lost that in the 200s, when they decided to add paganism.

Thankfully, God has always had His people, who didn’t bend their knee to Baal.

[Mom MD]

And always will have a remnant. His Word will accomplish its purpose and will not return to him empty

[metmom]

The whole Mary thing also perverts the image of God as He is presented in Scripture and represented to us by Christ.

Jesus said.......

John 5:19 So Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, the Son can do nothing of his own accord, but only what he sees the Father doing. For whatever the Father does, that the Son does likewise.

What happened to this Jesus of Scripture, the One who lived and walked and taught for three years with his disciples?

Did He turn into some kind of hard-hearted, callus monster when He got to heaven so that His mommy has to intervene to stay His wrath?

And she's the only one who can talk sense to Him?

WHY would anyone want to trade the God of the Bible for the Catholic God, ever?

[metmom]

That's one of the numerous errors of the Catholic Douay/Rheims Bible. They use the words "do penance" when Scripture says "repent".

The Catholic religion would have you believe that God would rather you beat yourself up over your sin than have you turn from it and not commit it any more.