Posted on 07/24/2020 7:55:20 AM PDT by Teleios Research
Be convinced with these 4 biblical truths: 1. Each of us has sinned; 2. God is just, requiring a punishment for sin; 3. But out of love God sent His Son, Jesus Christ who by dying on the cross, provided forgiveness of sins in taking man’s deserved punishment; 4. Therefore, by faith alone in Christ’s sacrifice for our sins and belief in His resurrection, man can gain eternal life. (Ephesians 2:8-9, Romans 10:9-10, Romans 3:21-26) Read more at https://teleiosresearch.com/salvation-explanation/.
By claiming that one cannot be saved if they worship on Sunday and not the Sabbath, that’s exactly what you are doing.
I have never claimed that, ever. What I have said is that right now anyone not keeping the 7th day Sabbath is breaking one of the 10 commandments. And, the 4th commandment just happens to be the one that shows who’s authority you worship under. If you knowingly break any commandment you will have to sort it out with God.
But at the end of the world, just before Christ returns, the Mark of the Beast will come into play. It is about worship and authority. The language of the 3 angel’s message is nearly identical to that of the 4th commandment:
“Revelation 14:6-7 .....’And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people, saying with a LOUD VOICE, fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.’
Revelation 14:9-12 .....’And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, the same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb: And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name. Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.’
The Mark of the Beast issue is over worship and authority (our Creator). The language of the 4th commandment is used. It is about commandment keeping as verse 12 describes. God’s mark, or sign, is the 7th day Sabbath, as I have shown you all over and over again. The Beast power is the Catholic Church and their mark, by their own admission, is Sunday worship. They claim to have changed a law of God and transferred His holy sabbath to Sunday. They are correct when they say that every Sunday keeping denomination is showing allegiance to them by worshiping on Sunday. Either you believe in the bible and bible only or you believe in the power of the Catholic church and your allegiance is to them (the Beast power).
This will be the final test at the end of the world. Who’s allegiance do you bow to? All will have to choose. Yes, anyone breaking the 7th day Sabbath is breaking a commandment and you will have to answer for that if you don’t ask forgiveness and then start keeping it. Where you will certainly lose your salvation is choosing Sunday and receiving the mark of the beast WHEN THAT TIME COMES. No one has the mark now. It isn’t a world issue yet. But it’s coming. If you take/receive the Mark of the Beast, you will not be in heaven. That biblical message could not be more clear.
You mess with God’s Sabbath and there will be Hell to pay (I thought of that myself)
Ecc 12:13 Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.
14 For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil.
BTW, just how are you so sure that what we call Saturday/the seventh day of the week, is REALLY the seventh according to God’s calendar?
Where is the record of Sabbath observances up until the Law that God gave Moses?
And how do you know that someone didn’t lose count some where along the way and that what you call Sabbath observance, isn’t really worshiping on say, the fourth day of creation, which would be what we call Wed?
You are banking on the Gregorian calendar being the gold standard. How do you know it is and that it’s not wrong?
Cause that would mean that you are also worshipping on the wrong day and in that case in a real world of hurt.
Every one of your questions/comments is answered in this article:
http://www.aloha.net/~mikesch/notsun.htm
There is zero chance that the 7th day Sabbath was ever lost.
Your comment: “Sorry; but we’ve SEEN countless times on FR that YOUR church states that it is Jesus’ MOTHER who should REALLY get all of the honor!!”
That is obviously a false sinful statement inspired by Satan.
Mary was the greatest disciple of her Son. How are you growing in your call to discipleship?
It is a shame that the lies and myths about the Catholic faith prevent people from understanding God’s Truth. Or is it the hatred toward the Catholic Church that is inspired by Satan that will prevent many from receiving the sanctifying graces received from the Sacraments and prayers that would help their salvation.
The Blessed Mother as a child dedicated herself to honor God as a Virgin. She was the first Christian disciple of Jesus, obedient to the will of God and was given special graces to bear and raise (with St Joseph) the Christ child as the new ark of the new covenant with God. As a Mother she suffered along with Christ.
The Blessed Mother was the first and most perfect member of Christ’s Church - the Catholic Church. She was completely obedient to the will of God. Mary was united to her Son in the work of salvation. The Blessed Mother draws us closer to Christ.
Jesus on the Cross entrusted his beloved disciple to His Mother and to all of us as our spiritual Mother. As the Body of Christ (the Catholic Church) we pray with the Mother of God for her intercession with her Son.
The Rosary is a Scripture based prayer to God reflecting on the mysteries of Christ’s life and the role of the Mother of God. Prayer leads us closer to God and with the graces we receive helpful in doing God’s will.
Why do you object to the promises of the Blessed Mother?
Her promises that our prayers will draw us closer to her Son, Jesus Christ and to help us do His will. Her promises are a positive way to guide us to salvation. Mary repeats the words of her Son “Ask, and it will be given you...” Matthew 7:7-8
If one studied history, they would know that the Rosary is a spiritual weapon that is hated by Satan.
There are some excellent books on the Blessed Mother:
“Behold Your Mother” Tim Staples, Catholic Answers Press
“Mary at the Crossroads of History” Rev. Francis J. Hoffman
Ignoring context is no way to correctly understand Scripture which is why Catholics can justify disobeying the clear, concise command of Jesus to not address religious leaders by the title of *Father*.
Jesus was NOT talking about families and children addressing parents.
Ironic coming from someone who demands a literal interpretation of a passage Jesus clearly tells His disciples is a metaphor.
He straight out say that the flesh is no help at all in context of the discourse about LITERALLY eating Jesus flesh and blood, and yet Catholicism demands a literal interpretation of a sentence that would make Jesus commanding people to sin.
And yet, to protect their doctrines and practices, they weasel out of something as unambiguous as calling no religious leader by the title of *father*.
The brainwashing is complete to not see the inconsistency of that stand.
Dream on.
You really only stand a one in seven chance of actually worshipping on the correct day. Not great odds to bank your salvation on.
Got a chapter and verse on that?
It’s really incredible Bro.
Unreal that they will just completely ignore God’s Word and threaten those of us who do not ignore His Words.
They remind me of Haman.
“I thought of that myself”
Like all of your other ‘theology’ also.
Take a deep breath, and start at the beginning. You still have time to figure it out.
Don’t you love legalists?
Galatians 5:1
Romans 3:20 (Condemns all legalists)
Romans 7:6
1 Corinthians 10:31
Actually entire 1 Corinthians is a great read on this.
Amen!
God Bless!
One’s ability to think clearly with reason and logic is affected by how they allow their prejudices to control their understanding of God’s Truth.
Some of your reasoning lacks an ability to see, hear and understand and be consistent.
Jesus taught in parables “This is why I speak in parables, because seeing they do not see, and hearing they do not hear, nor do they understand.” (Matthew 13:13)
So you allow an exception for children to call their Dad as Father, but you want to disallow St Paul, St Peter and St John and Catholic priests of being spiritual fathers to the followers of Christ in the Catholic Church. “For I became your father in Christ Jesus through the gospel” (1 Cor. 4:14–15). The inspired word of God considers the Apostles and their successors as spiritual fathers and not God the Father.
For the life of me I’ll never understand why none of you won’t just READ a link that I post to. I read every one of yours, videos, etc... All of you are too busy? Scared that you mind will be taken over by a cult theology just for reading an article? Nevertheless, I’ll post answers to every claim Metmom made, even though they are all answered in this article, and there’s so much more. That’s fine. I’ll piece it out for you and spoon feed it a little at a time. Answers coming shortly. (even though they are all conveniently in one simple, easy to read article)
Sunday is NOT the Sabbath:
http://www.aloha.net/~mikesch/notsun.htm
Where is the record of Sabbath observances up until the Law that God gave Moses?
Sabbath Keeping After the Flood.
The Patriarch Abraham, who was born some 1000 years after the death of Adam, and 300 years after the flood, can also be shown to have kept the seventh-day sabbath:
Gen 26:5 Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws.
Clearly since Abraham kept God’s laws he must also have faithfully kept the seventh day sabbath of the Lord.
http://www.aloha.net/~mikesch/notsun.htm
This also disproves the fallacy that God’s Law didn’t exist before Mount Sinai.
And how do you know that someone didn’t lose count some where along the way and that what you call Sabbath observance, isn’t really worshiping on say, the fourth day of creation, which would be what we call Wed?
Moses and the Jews Before Mount Sinai.
While Israel was captive in Egypt, Pharaoh was not pleased with them, and gave this reason:
Exo 5:5 And Pharaoh said, Behold, the people of the land now are many, and ye make them rest from their burdens.
The word rest is H7673, shabath. The same word is used in Genesis 2:2-3 with the seventh day of creation. Israel was observing a sabbath rest in Egypt, and this angered Pharaoh who then commanded them to also gather their own straw to make bricks, but the quota of bricks was to remain the same. Pharaoh’s attempt to force work on Israel such that they could not rest on the sabbath, led to the plagues falling on the Egyptians.
After leaving Egypt, but before the commandments of God were given on stone tablets atop mount Sinai, God had already shown Israel precisely which day was His sabbath:
Exo 16:23 And he [Moses] said unto them, This is that which the LORD hath said, To morrow is the rest of the holy sabbath unto the LORD:
Some may think that any old day will satisfy God, but the Lord left no doubt about the day he wanted observed, he told Moses and the Israelites exactly which day was the sabbath. For 40 years a double portion of manna fell on Friday, and no manna fell on sabbath. Note that this began BEFORE the Ten Commandments were given to Moses on Sinai. The manna continued until the Israelites entered the promised land (Exodus 16:35, Joshua 5:12). With 52 weeks a year, that means God made the seventh day sabbath plain to them for over 2000 weeks. It is a day that does matter to God.
Mount Sinai.
Note that at Sinai the following was said with regard to the sabbath-
Exo 20:8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
Exo 20:9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:
Exo 20:10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy
God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:
Exo 20:11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
Deu 5:15 And remember that thou wast a servant in the land of Egypt, and that the LORD thy God brought thee out thence through a mighty hand and by a stretched out arm: therefore the LORD thy God commanded thee to keep the sabbath day.
When Moses came up on Sinai, God commanded that the Jews were to REMEMBER the sabbath day. The sabbath was not first revealed to Israel on Sinai, they were told to remember what they already knew in no uncertain terms.
http://www.aloha.net/~mikesch/notsun.htm
REMEMBER THE SABBATH DAY TO KEEP IT HOLY.
Jesus Knew And Kept The Sabbath Day.
Since Jesus was God, he knew exactly which day was the genuine seventh-day sabbath -
Luke 4:16 And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and stood up for to read.
Jesus Himself was a keeper of the seventh-day sabbath. Now, if the Jews had somehow lost track of the sabbath day since the time of Moses, Jesus would have certainly corrected them, but this was not necessary, since they were already observing the right day. As this establishes a firm reference point in history, it remains for the skeptic to try and prove that the Jews, and the rest of the world, somehow collectively lost track of the seventh day Sabbath in the 2000 years since the time of Christ, a period which is very well documented.
(this last part is important so I have repeated it)
“As this establishes a firm reference point in history, it remains for the skeptic to try and prove that the Jews, and the rest of the world, somehow collectively lost track of the seventh day Sabbath in the 2000 years since the time of Christ, a period which is very well documented.”
You are banking on the Gregorian calendar being the gold standard. How do you know it is and that it’s not wrong?
The Gregorian Calendar Reform
Sometimes people will say the calendar reform in the Middle Ages must have altered the weekdays as we know them, so we cannot be sure which day is the seventh day. Again people that think this have not researched the issue.
The calendar reform of 1582 was initiated by Pope Gregory XIII because the calendar established by Julius Caesar, was not accurate and stable. This was due to the fact that the Julian calendar added a leap day every 4 years, without exception, and this resulted in adding too many days than required for an accurate solar calendar. The Julian calendar had commenced the 1st of January of the 46th year before the birth of Christ (the 708th from the foundation of Rome). At that time the Spring equinox fell on March 25th, but because of the Julian calendar’s inaccuracy, it had gradually drifted earlier over the years to March 10th or 11th by 1582. This error was important to the Catholic church, because under the solar Julian calendar, the date of Easter (the most important date to the church), was gradually creeping farther and farther (earlier and earlier) away from the time of year set by the Council of Nicea in 325 A.D., when the equinox fell about March 21st. Easter was then to be observed by Roman Catholics on the first Sunday after the full moon occurring after the Spring equinox, except when that coincided with the Jewish Passover, in which case Easter was delayed to the following Sunday.
To correct this perceived Easter problem, Pope Gregory XIII (Inter Gravissimas) returned the Spring equinox to March 21st by decreeing that Thursday, October 4th, 1582, would be followed not by the 5th, but by Friday, October 15th. He jumped the calendar 10 days numerically, but did not change the weekly cycle of days.
So that this correction would be maintained, the Pope then decreed that leap years would occur only when the year was divisible by four, and only the centennial years that were divisible by 400 would be leap years. During a leap year, one day is added to the month of February (the 29th), as a correction. This method of calendar keeping was gradually adopted across Europe, and the world, and is nearly universal today.
England did not adopt the Gregorian calendar until 1752. By that time, eleven days had been gained so Wednesday, September 2, was followed by Thursday, September 14. The eleven days were skipped, but the weekly cycle of days, Sunday through Saturday, remained unchanged throughout the Middle Ages. (The French Revolution was a notable exception, when for a period of 14 years (1792-1806) a ten day week was adopted, the tenth day being the day of rest).
http://www.aloha.net/~mikesch/notsun.htm
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