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OMG>>>REALLY....Listen very carefully...one more time.....The SHROUD’s Image of Jesus was ONLY seen when it was put under X-RAY!! The X-RAY EXPOSED the Image, NOT CAUSED IT!!! YIKES!!


147 posted on 02/25/2020 9:17:00 AM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Ann Archy
OMG>>>REALLY....Listen very carefully...one more time.....The SHROUD’s Image of Jesus was ONLY seen when it was put under X-RAY!! The X-RAY EXPOSED the Image, NOT CAUSED IT!!! YIKES!

Then you very clearly do not know what you are talking about, Ann. I have been studying the Shroud for over FIFTY YEARS and what you just asserted is complete BUNK! It is FALSE!!

NO X-RAYS were ever used on the Shroud until 1978. How many times do I have to tell you that fact?

Unlike you, I know what I am talking about.

People don’t queue up by the tens of thousands down through the centuries to look at a blank sheet of cloth, Ann. The image has always been there. It did not need to be “revealed” by exposure to X-rays, by anyone. I don’t know who told you that, but they lied to you.

SO READ WHAT I WROTE! The Shroud has been on display with an image has been seen Publicly since 1354 and most likely since 1352 as an historical fact, when it was put on display at a small chapel built by Geoffrey de Charney, the Standard Bearer of the King of France. The image was visible then. We have evidence that the Shroud was seen WITH it’s image in the 12th Century. In addition, Archdeacon Gregory Referendarius of the Hagia Sofia in Constantinople gives a very good, if flowery, description of the Shroud in his Sermon of August 15, 944 on what is arguably the Shroud’s arrival at the Hagia Sofia as the Image of Edessa. It will be listed in the inventory of the relics of the Hagia Sofia from that point on as the Shroud of our Lord until the Knights of the Fourth Crusade attack and loot the city in the 12th Century. One of the leaders of that Crusade was Geofry de Charny, one of the founders of the Knights Templar, and alsoGreat great grandfather of one Geoffrey de Charney, in whose hands the Shroud turns up in 1352, in Lirey, France.

Copies were painted of it in the 15th and 16th Century, long before the discovery of X-rays. This image of the Shroud of Turin was found in a Prayer Book from prior to the fire of 1532 when the Shroud suffered severe physical damage and had to be patched, and the color recreation depicted in the Prayer Book clearly shows the frontal and dorsal images on the Shroud. This is CLEARLY before the discovery of X-Rays in 1895 by Wilhem Röntgen.

Photo courtesy of Eugenio Donandoni, Christie's Auction House

That first appearance was almost 700 years ago, long before X-rays were discovered by Wilhem Röntgen on November 8, 1895. Three years later, Secondo Pia a lawyer and amateur photographer who was allowed to take several plain old glass plate, black and white, photographs, not an X-ray, of the Shroud of Turin, during the week of May 25 to June 2, 1898, as part of an exhibition of the 400th anniversary of the Turin Cathedral, but opened early to honor the wedding of one of the Savoy family, the royal family of Italy. These photographs had exposure times, under hot electric lights, of between five and eight minutes each. Several times the glass plates broke due to heat. Pia was finally successful on his second day of trying, between crowds, to get two unbroken plates. He already knew from developing the broken plates that the image would be a positive image.

159 posted on 02/25/2020 2:45:47 PM PST by Swordmaker (My pistol self-identifies as an iPad, so you must accept it in gun-free zones, you hoplophobe bigot!)
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