Decree! Archbishop Lwanga Bans Holy Communion by Hand, Mass Outside Church in Kampala Archdiocese [Uganda]

PML Daily ^ | 2/2/20 | George Okello

[marshmallow]

KAMPALA — Kampala Catholic Archbishop Cyprian Kizito Lwanga has directed that no Christian or practicing Catholic will be allowed to receive the Holy Communion by hand.

He has also decreed that Holy Mass will no longer be celebrated in homes, as is the current norm, in a bid to “fend off abuses in the liturgical life of the Church”.

The directives are contained in a decree he issued on Saturday, February 1, 2020 following a high level meeting with the clergy and senior executive committees of parishes at Rubaga Cathedral in Kampala. A decree (Latin: decretum) is an order or law made by a superior authority for the direction of others.

Previously, Catholics have been receiving the Eucharist either by the palm of the hand or by mouth. But under the new decree, the priest will only be allowed to distribute the Holy Eucharist (bread) by mouth. Archbishop Lwanga said the measure is in keeping with the liturgical and canonical norms of the Church Universal under Canon Law 392: 2.

"Henceforth, it is forbidden to distribute or to receive Holy Communion In the hands. Mother Church enjoins US to hold the Most Holy Eucharist in the highest honor (Can. 898). Due to many reported instances of dishonoring the Eucharist that have been associated with reception of the Eucharist in the hands, it is lilting to return to the more reverent method of receiving the Eucharist on the tongue,” the letter reads in part.

[Apple Pan Dowdy]

”So when Jesus said the He would be with us He meant that He is the Holy Spirit?”

Yes, that is exactly what He meant. The three (Father, Son, and Holy Spirit) are “ONE”.They are not separate entities. The definition of the Trinity is: God is one God, but three coeternal consubstantial persons or hypostases—the Father, the Son (Jesus Christ), and the Holy Spirit—as "one God in three Divine persons". The three persons are distinct, yet are one "substance, essence or nature".

Don’t you, as a Catholic say the Nicene Creed? (just as many of us Protestants do)...... I am pretty sure you do.

[RichardMoore]

They are three persons in one divine nature.

[RichardMoore]

These incorruptible saints are wonderful. God still is working miracles.

Our Lady of Guadalupe’s apparition is connected with the tilma, a 500 year old image of Mary which has no human explanation such as paint etc. And which is on a plant based cloth that should have decays centuries ago.

[RichardMoore]

He disappeared and we recognised Him in the breaking of the bread.

[daniel1212]

Since some of you are concerned about the Miraculous Medal here is a link to St Catherine Laboure’s story which includes her body’s current condition.

Today the "medal" I was concerned about was a metal exhaust pipe that was broken and held up by coat hanger wire. Better hung with strapping.

Today her beautiful remains still lie fresh and serene. When her body was exhumed in 1933, it was found as fresh as the day it was buried.

There is more to that preservation:

Sixty years later, during beatification proceedings, her [Catherine Laboure] body was exhumed. She appeared alive. The corpse was treated with chemicals and put on display. Today it lies in the Chapel of Our Lady of the Miraculous Medal in Paris. (https://www.evl.uic.edu/landry/bodies/cath.html) Likewise, "The body of nineteenth-century visionary Catherine Laboure was found incorrupt in 1933 and was maintained by artificial means." (Christine Quigle, "The Corpse: A History" p. 256)

Vatican’s secret, and deadly, project to mummify saints

With Ancient Egypt’s mummification process as inspiration, the Vatican had an elite team of embalmers preserve 31 “saints, beatified, and servants of God” between 1975 and 2008. The project, which tragically proved fatal to many of those who worked on it, is a bridge between heaven and earth. “The bodies and body parts of these holy individuals,” says one embalmer, “kept like a work of art.”..

When Pope Pius XII died in 1958, the Vatican used a wrapping technique similar to what was believed to have been applied to Jesus. It failed miserably. Only days after his death, his nose fell off, and a Swiss Guard fainted due to the stench while he was guarding the body. Pope John XXIII followed the reign of Pope Pius XII. After his death, John was treated with a simple formalin solution and placed in an airtight, layered coffin. It worked remarkably well — though the Church wouldn’t find that out until decades later...

In 1975, Monsignor Gianfranco Nolli, director of the Vatican’s Egyptian Museum, had an inspiration. After examining the excellent state of 4,000-year-old Egyptian mummies, he believed the Church could advance its treatments of popes and saints for the same effect.

St. Teresa, who died in 1582, is an example of how obsessed earlier Catholics were with relics of the flesh. After her death, a priest cut off her left hand, from which he took a finger, wearing it around his neck for the rest of his life. Followers later removed her heart, right arm, right foot and a piece of jaw to display as relics in various sites...

31 bodies and body parts of saints and other holy people the mummification team from the Vatican worked on from 1975 to 2008..

The team’s most important task was Pope John XXIII...More than 25,000 people visit St. Peter’s Basilica every day, and many faithful still believe the incorrupt state of his body is a miracle.

Shockingly, there is only one survivor from the original team, the others having died of various tumors and cancers, likely side effects of the toxic chemicals expended during their work. Nobody is currently willing to assume their task due to the peril. - http://nypost.com/2014/03/22/making-of-a-saint-the-vaticans-quest-to-preserve-its-leaders/

The Order of the Good Death The (Not Really So Very) Incorrupt Corpses

[some] incorruptibles get treatments (like a corpse spa) and it’s no big secret.

According to Church doctrine, incorruptibility alone can’t be counted as a miracle anymore. More sophisticated scientific explanations as well as mistakes found in hundreds of years of preservation records have forced the Church to reconsider which saints deserved the title in the first place....

small differences in temperature, moisture, and construction techniques lead to some tombs producing naturally preserved bodies while others in the same church didn’t....

Once the incorrupt bodies were removed from these climates or if the climates changed, they deteriorated. This may have been what happened to St. Francesca Romana who was deemed incorrupt four months after her death in 1440 only to be found fully skeletonized in 1698 (though you still hear people refer to her as incorrupt)...

The use of wax as an artist’s medium invites even more confusion and misunderstanding when it comes to the incorrupt. There are thousands of wax effigies in Catholic churches. Some have relics inside them, others don’t, and maybe a few hundred are fully incorrupt corpses wearing wax masks.

At the turn of the 21st century, the Vatican commissioned a team of pathologists and chemists to study saints’ bodies. The team encountered many cases in which saints had clearly been mummified, often by their followers, in an attempt to preserve (or help preserve) their bodies. One of these cases was Saint Margaret of Cortona. - https://psmag.com/environment/incorruptible-bodies-saints-religion-catholicism-pope-john-paul-94892<

The Incorruptibles The bodies of many medieval Catholic saints and martyrs have resisted decay for centuries— just the sort of mystery that begs for scientific inquiry By Heather Pringle -

Those who preserved Saint Margaret had done so remarkably thoroughly, excising her internal organs and drenching her skin in fragrant lotions. Their handiwork reminded Fulcheri of the techniques employed by ancient Egyptian embalmers. Mulling this over, the pathologist wondered whether the resemblances were merely coincidental or whether at some point in the distant past,...

In 1697, for example, an Italian surgeon left a list of 27 powdered herbs and drugs that he had employed to preserve the body of Saint Gregorio Barbarigo. ...

The church records offered no explanation for such drastic actions, so Fulcheri began hunting elsewhere for clues, searching to see if he could find other similarly mummified saints in Italy. His research has turned up five other similar cases— Saint Clare of Montefalco, Blessed Margaret of Metola, Saint Catherine of Siena, Saint Bernardine of Siena, and Saint Rita of Cascia...

By the time holy figures were exhumed during beatification or canonization trials, the tombs' microclimate had sometimes desiccated their flesh, turning it to the texture of old leather. And if there was any confusion among officials about which body was the correct one, they picked the best preserved, for incorruptibility was taken as a sign of holiness. Is it true that the bodies of some saints are incorruptible? /p>

I read _Scent_ by Annick LeGuerer some years ago and it had a section on the scent of sanctity. It discussed the presence of acetone in the blood as responsible for that agreeable floral odor described as "sanctified." Acetone in the blood is a result of diabetes. The diabetic body makes it in abnormal mass quantities. (This finding is what led to the Church saying that the incorruptible body could no longer be the only test of sanctity.) The book said St. Teresa of Avila was a confirmed diabetic (but I haven't read that info anywhere else). The book also went into how the mind (in ecstatic state) could change the blood alcohol composition so that was another way for saints to have the scent of sanctity. It was really interesting to think that our incorruptibles/saints were diabetics. - Miss P

Vatican’s secret, and deadly, project to mummify saints

Paramahansa Yogananda As reported in Time Magazine on 4 August 1952, Harry T. Rowe, Los Angeles Mortuary Director of the Forest Lawn Memorial Park in Glendale, California, where Yogananda's body was received, embalmed and interred,[46] wrote in a notarized letter[7] The absence of any visual signs of decay in the dead body of Paramahansa Yogananda offers the most extraordinary case in our experience... No physical disintegration was visible in his body even twenty days after death... No indication of mold was visible on his skin, and no visible drying up took place in the bodily tissues. This state of perfect preservation of a body is, so far as we know from mortuary annals, an unparalleled one... No odor of decay emanated from his body at any time...[47][48]

Which accounts are not alone: [Buddhist] Monk's Body Miraculously Intact 80 Years After Death

[ealgeone]

Roman Catholics are so weak in their faith they look to signs and wonders.

It is a weak faith, if a faith at all.

[Apple Pan Dowdy]

”They are three persons in one divine nature.”

Since only Jesus could be defined “person“ as people are defined “person”, and the Father and the Holy Spirit are not “people”.... then obviously “person” has a different definition here. The “divine nature” part gives us a hint, that they are not persons as we people are persons, but their nature is very different. You are trying to redefine the Trinity to fit you R.C. assumption that because Jesus promised to always be with us, but the Holy Spirit stayed instead, then body and blood of the Eucharist must physically be Christ’s body and blood here with us.

Personally I am inclined to say that you believing it happens that way does not make you a non-Christian. But I refuse to allow you to tell me that I do not have a Christian spiritual life because I do not believe it happens that way.

[Elsie]

They are three persons in one divine nature.

Sure you ain't a MORMON?

[Elsie]

...which has no human explanation such as paint etc.

T'was already explained.

Haven't you read your book?

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Matthew 24:24
For false messiahs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect.

[Elsie]

The corpse was treated with chemicals...

IF these folks were so 'pure' and 'holy', why would ANY chemicals b e needed at all?

[Elsie]

Roman Catholics are so weak in their faith they look to signs and wonders.

HEY!

[Elsie]

It discussed the presence of acetone in the blood as responsible for that agreeable floral odor described as "sanctified."

I have a can of acetone in the basement.

It is a POWERFUL paint remover.

It sure does NOT smell like any flower that I've ever sniffed!

[Elsie]

Parts are parts...

Followers later removed her heart, right arm, right foot and a piece of jaw to display as relics in various sites...

[Elsie]

Watch out, Buster!

The Danites may show up at your door; for...

No one expects the Danites!

 

 

 

http://scriptures.lds.org/en/js_h/1/17#17 

  17 It no sooner appeared than I found myself delivered from the enemy which held me bound. When the light rested upon me I saw two Personages, whose brightness and glory defy all description, standing above me in the air. One of them spake unto me, calling me by name and said, pointing to the other—This is My Beloved Son. Hear Him!
  18 My object in going to inquire of the Lord was to know which of all the sects was right, that I might know which to join. No sooner, therefore, did I get possession of myself, so as to be able to speak, than I asked the Personages who stood above me in the light, which of all the sects was right (for at this time it had never entered into my heart that all were wrong)—and which I should join.
  19 I was answered that I must join none of them, for they were all wrong; and the Personage who addressed me said that all their creeds were an abomination in his sight; that those professors were all corrupt; that: “they draw near to me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me, they teach for doctrines the commandments of men, having a form of godliness, but they deny the power thereof.”
  20 He again forbade me to join with any of them; and many other things did he say unto me, which I cannot write at this time. When I came to myself again, I found myself lying on my back, looking up into heaven. 

 

 

--Mormon_Dude(Hail Joseph!)

 

 

[Elsie]

[RichardMoore]

I realize that the doctrine of the Trinity is difficult to explain, but #254 CCC “The divine persons are really distinct from one another. ‘Father,’ ‘Son,’ ‘Holy Spirit’ are not simply names designating modalities of the divine being, for they are really distinct from one another.”

[RichardMoore]

Actually most of the Sola Fides and Sola Scriptura folks here are telling me that the Catholic Church is not only wrong, they say it is evil.
You weren’t here when I posted from the Catechism that Christians who are not Catholic share a faith with us even though our unity is incomplete.

[RichardMoore]

The fact that you quote that her body was found incorrupt after 60 years doesn’t amaze you?

The Tilma in Mexico City has the same sort of inexplicable image as the Shroud of Turin. And it is on a vegetable based piece of cloth that should have decayed centuries ago. But of course you can probably find someone who says it’s fake.

[ealgeone]

You weren’t here when I posted from the Catechism that Christians who are not Catholic share a faith with us even though our unity is incomplete.

Which is quite a change from Vatican 1 and prior to V1 when non-Roman Catholics were all condemned.

That's a lot of change for the group who claims they've never changed.

[Elsie]

...they say it is evil.

Perhaps our definitions of what 'evil' means do not match up.

Could you explain the RCC definition of it?