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To: Mom MD

Enoch’s taking up to heaven dovetails into Scripture whereas a pre-Trib Rap is in contradiction to the overall picture of the last days painted by the New Testament.

The pre-Trib Rapture is not part of the Christian Faith. Despite its popularity among U.S. Christians, the belief has no basis in Scripture and directly contradicts two millennia of Christianity teaching stating how in the last days, the Church will share Christ’s Passion in an intense way, and then at His return, His Resurrection.

In 1 Thessalonians, Paul says nothing about the believers being raptured away so as to escape persecution Instead, those translated directly from earthly existence to glory are those who are “alive,” who are “left.”

Read within its historical context, Paul is probably likening the Lord’s return to that of a victorious general. As the conqueror returned to Rome, he would stop outside the city, and wait for his family to be brought to him. Once his entourage was fully assembled they would enter the city together, amidst fanfare and celebration.

In Matthew 24, who is taken? it is the unrighteous! “As [in] the days of Noah,…the flood came and swept them all away.”

in Jesus’ example it is the righteous who are “left behind.” Jesus gave a similar description earlier in Matthew:


84 posted on 11/12/2019 7:17:28 AM PST by Cronos (Re-elect President Trump 2020!)
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To: Cronos

matthew 24 is not the pretrib rapture. it is the removal of unbelievers to judgement. I once thought as you did but studied the pre trib rapture to understand and refute it. Instead when i looked at all the scripture and evidence I became persuaded. Believe as you wish it is not a salvific issue. But you might study instead of dismissing out of hand.


101 posted on 11/12/2019 7:26:50 AM PST by Mom MD
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To: Cronos
In Matthew 24, who is taken? it is the unrighteous! “As [in] the days of Noah,…the flood came and swept them all away.”

This is demonstrably wrong. The elect are taken, that is, believers.

31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other. (Matthew 24:31)

147 posted on 11/12/2019 8:04:07 AM PST by nonsporting (MAGA -- Make America Godly Again)
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