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To: Cronos
Matthew 24:29=31

29-Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

30-And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

31-And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

This depicts The Second Coming of Jesus (0r the Rapture)+
27 posted on 11/09/2019 4:16:11 AM PST by F105-D ThunderChief (By the People, not By the Government!)
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To: F105-D ThunderChief

When the Holy Spirit fully enters you the sound in your ears is like many trumpets. It is so loud that it is hard to hear over the inner noise.

As you pray and raise up in the Holy Spirit, the note’s tone changes to a higher frequency.


32 posted on 11/09/2019 4:28:57 AM PST by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: F105-D ThunderChief; Mark17; SkyPilot

go back 2 lines - in Matt 24:28 “As the lightning comes from the east and sines as far as the west, so willb e the coming of the son of Man” - when Christ comes again there will be no need for a PR pre-Trib rap campaign.

The false messiahs who talk about Rapture will try to build a base of support but they are false.

In Matt 24:29 Jesus uses Jewish apocalyptic language to describe what will happen to those who will persecute the Christ followers during the Great Tribulation of AD 60 to 69 AD “Immediately after the tribulation of those days (the persecution of Christians in 60 AD by Jewish and Roman authorities), the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from heaven, and the pwoers of the heavens will be shaken”

RApturinos look at these verses and claim that they must be fulfilled literally. They want to see the sun stop shining. They demand the spectacle of shooting stars. But THIS IGNORES how the Bible itself uses such language.

Apocalyptic prophecy repeatedly uses heavenly disruptions to describe political upheavels.

Even the Jewish literature that described the flal of Jerusalem AFTER it happened used this type of language to describe the events surrounding 70 AD

The SIBYLLINE ORACLES written around 75 AD says “He seized the divinely built Temple... For on his appearance the whole creation was shaken and kings perished (SO, 5:150-154)

There is nothing here in Matthew that is at all unlike the language of ISAIAH “The stars of the heavens and their constellations will not give their light; the sun will be dark at its rising and the moon will not shed its light... I will make the heavens tremble and the eath willb e shaken out of its place” (ISA 13:10-13) — Isaiah is predicting the DEFEAT OF BABYLON in 500 BC.

Jesus is foretelling the overthrow of the political dynasties of the Herodians, the Julio-Claudians and the High priests that persecuted Jesus Church.

Jesus draws a paralle between the “shaking” of Babylon in the OT and the “shaking” of Jerusalem of 30 to 70 AD (the persecutor of God’s New Covenant people).

John uses this backdrop for his third vision in his apocalypse


36 posted on 11/09/2019 4:36:39 AM PST by Cronos (Re-elect President Trump 2020!)
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To: F105-D ThunderChief; Mark17; SkyPilot

And read Haggai 2:6-7

“Thus says the Lord of Hosts: once again, in a little while, I will shake the heavens and the earth and the sea and the drylands; and I will shake all the nations, so that the treasures of all nations shall come in, and I will fill this house with splendor, says the Lord of Hosts”

What is this “splendor”? This was Christ and the “house” was the New Covenant Temple, the Church.

Haggai was predicting the shaking or overthrow, of Jerusalem so that the “treasures fo all nations”, the Church could be revealed.

The shaking of Jerusalem in 70 AD cleared the way for the unimpeded growth of Christ’s Church


38 posted on 11/09/2019 4:39:35 AM PST by Cronos (Re-elect President Trump 2020!)
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To: F105-D ThunderChief; SkyPilot
Were you flying nickels out of Tahkli? It wasn’t called a lead sled for nothing. It was next to impossible to work in with other traffic. Too dang fast in the pattern.
I was at Bien Hoa. My son will start flying T-6s at Randolph, next month. ✈️
45 posted on 11/09/2019 4:49:17 AM PST by Mark17 (Once saved, always saved. I do not care if some do not like that. It will NEVER be my problem)
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