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The Dormition of the Blessed Virgin Mary, the Mother of God [2007]
Sword-In-Hat Blogspot ^ | 15 August 2007 | Rick Stuckwisch

Posted on 08/18/2019 7:05:12 PM PDT by Al Hitan

Today the Church remembers with thanksgiving the Blessed Virgin Mary, the Mother of God. Historically, this day was understood to mark her dormition, or "falling asleep," which was most anciently regarded as her natural death and burial. From early on, however, the Church considered that she who conceived and gave birth to the very God of very God, by His Word and Holy Spirit, was also resurrected and ascended into heaven, in both body and soul, soon after her death. There is no word of Holy Scripture to teach these traditions as doctrine, but we should not be too quick to dismiss them as merely pious devotion. Such piety, at its heart, is a confession of that which is the Church's faith in Christ, the Blessed Virgin Mary's Son, our Savior and our God.

St. Mary is uniquely honored among all the saints of God in Christ, not only by the Church, but first of all by the Lord God Himself. He has had mercy upon her, blessed her with His grace and favor, and chosen her above all other women to bear the almighty and eternal Son of God. She is rightly called, and truly is, the Mother of God; for her own dear Son, the Fruit of her womb, is indeed the one true God, begotten of the Father from all eternity. It is from her flesh and blood that the Lord has taken for Himself a true and natural body, bone of her bone and flesh of her flesh, so that henceforth He is true Man, the perfect second Adam, our elder Brother, our kinsman Redeemer, the promised Seed of the Woman, by whom we are reconciled to God. As the ancient fathers of the Church confessed, God thus became like us, in order that we become like Him, by grace. It is that great salvation that we celebrate in commemorating any of the saints, and in particular the Blessed Virgin Mother of God, St. Mary.

She is an icon of the Church, a living Sacrament of Christ, and a beautiful example of faith, of all the true children of father Abraham. Her body was comprehended by the Word and Spirit of God to become the tangible means by which the Son of God became flesh and was given to us, and not only for us, but for the life of the world. It is His body, conceived and born of St. Mary, that our sins and sorrows did carry. It is a human body, like our own in every way, save without sin, because He was born of this woman (born under the Law to redeem us). Thus do we recognize in her an archetype of the Blessed Sacrament of our Lord's body and blood.

What is more, in conceiving and giving birth to the Son of God, she is a type of the Church, the holy mother who surely gives birth to the sons of God in Christ. We too have been conceived and given new birth by the same Word and Spirit of the same Holy Triune God that overshadowed the Blessed Virgin Mary and knit within her womb the incarnation of the only-begotten Son. Thus are we, like Him, "born not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God" (St. John 1:13).

Along with her vocation as the woman by whom the Son of God was given to and for the world, St. Mary also stands with us as a living member of the Church, the Body of Christ. When the Word of the Gospel was announced to her, she received that Word in faith, obtained in her by the mercies of God, and meekly bowed her head in humble trust: "Let it be to me according to Thy Word." Blessed is she who has heard the Word of God and kept it, who treasured it in her heart, who believed that there would surely be a fulfillment of all that God had spoken to her. In all of this, St. Mary is one of us, a faithful disciple of her own dear Son, and among that great cloud of witnesses with which we are surrounded, of that blest communion, fellowship divine.

When the Church in pious tradition has considered St. Mary to be resurrected and ascended to heaven, already in both body and soul, it is a confession of faith in that which Christ Jesus our Lord has accomplished for us and for all by His victorious Cross, Resurrection and Ascension. We may indeed contemplate that she by whom the Lord became like us, should exemplify the way in which we all become like Him, recreated in the glorious Image of the Man from heaven. Of course, we do not rest faith upon the tradition of St. Mary's dormition and assumption into heaven; faith clings to Jesus Christ alone and finds true peace and Sabbath rest forever in Him. But what we envision concering St. Mary, we understand to be the Church's hope precisely in Christ our Lord, our Savior and our God. For we know that He is the Resurrection and the Life, and that she who believes in Him will live even if she dies; yes, and everyone who lives and believes in Him will never die.

We believe, teach and confess with the absolute certainty of faith that St. Mary is the Mother of God; that the almighty and eternal Son of the living God was born of this woman, born under the Law, to redeem us who were under the Law. In celebrating that marvelous incarnation of God the Son, in which He died and rose again for us men and our salvation, we may also celebrate proleptically the resurrection of the body that all His saints share with Him by grace through faith in the Gospel. And in that glorious light, we sing: "O higher than the cherubim, more glorious than the seraphim, lead their praises: 'Alleluia!' Thou bearer of the eternal Word, most gracious magnify the Lord: 'Alleluia! Alleluia! Alleluia!"


TOPICS: Apologetics; General Discusssion; Theology
KEYWORDS: dormition; lams; lcms; lutheran; mary; protestant
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To: ealgeone
Well, he, along with the instructor pilots and the Flight Surgeon, think he will be ok. Most of them get over their air sickness.
By the way, do you like my new tagline? 😁😆👊
321 posted on 08/20/2019 5:53:25 PM PDT by Mark17 (Once saved, always saved. I am an Ephesians 2:8-9 kind of guy. It is a beautiful thing. Enjoy it)
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To: metmom; vladimir998
MM: “So now it reads that you’re saying that Jesus is not the Second Person of the Trinity, God Incarnate. Interesting.......”

vlad: There was no Jesus before Jesus was formed in the womb. That’s exactly what John 1 tells us. There was the Second Person of the Trinity but no Jesus.

[But those who say: 'There was a time when he was not;' and 'He was not before he was made;' and 'He was made out of nothing,' or 'He is of another substance' or 'essence,' or 'The Son of God is created,' or 'changeable,' or 'alterable'— they are condemned by the holy catholic and apostolic Church.]

322 posted on 08/20/2019 5:53:45 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: Mark17
Good to hear!

And yes...excellent tagline!

323 posted on 08/20/2019 5:54:13 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: vladimir998
Image result for flailing
324 posted on 08/20/2019 5:55:04 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone

“You did admit to wearing the scapular at one time but IIRC you stopped.”

And do you remember why?

“The message of the apparition is a false one as it contradicts Scripture....but based on your posts today I can see why you were deceived by the apparition.”

I’ve never been deceived. That’s why I’m not a Protestant. Also, I never wore a scapular because of any apparition. I wore a scapular for my own reasons.

Seriously, you just make things up out of thin air.

You post things that are COMPLETELY FALSE.


325 posted on 08/20/2019 5:59:12 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: vladimir998

You, my friend, do not have the truth ... don’t kid yourself.


326 posted on 08/20/2019 5:59:27 PM PDT by frnewsjunkie
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To: ealgeone

Keep running from these verses and making things up:

John 1: 1-3: In the beginning was the Word,
and the Word was with God,
and the Word was God.
He was in the beginning with God.
All things came to be through him,
and without him nothing came to be.

John 1:14: And the Word became flesh
and made his dwelling among us,
and we saw his glory,
the glory as of the Father’s only Son,
full of grace and truth.

The Second Person of the Trinity BECAME FLESH. Only after John says that does he refer to “Jesus Christ” in verse 17.


327 posted on 08/20/2019 6:00:35 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: frnewsjunkie

“You, my friend, do not have the truth ... don’t kid yourself.”

No, I do have it. It isn’t mine. It’s His. I just get to share it. You could too, but you choose - according to your own words - the personal over the absolute.


328 posted on 08/20/2019 6:02:08 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: vladimir998
vlad: There was no Jesus before Jesus was formed in the womb. That’s exactly what John 1 tells us. There was the Second Person of the Trinity but no Jesus.

[But those who say: 'There was a time when he was not;' and 'He was not before he was made;' and 'He was made out of nothing,' or 'He is of another substance' or 'essence,' or 'The Son of God is created,' or 'changeable,' or 'alterable'— they are condemned by the holy catholic and apostolic Church.]

Image result for flailing

329 posted on 08/20/2019 6:04:27 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: vladimir998
>>“The message of the apparition is a false one as it contradicts Scripture....but based on your posts today I can see why you were deceived by the apparition.” <<

I’ve never been deceived.

Well, yes you were....by the false message of the apparition to wear a man-made piece of cloth to keep you out of the eternal fire. Retail price somewhere around $11.95. Remember though...you get what you pay for.

But you know what vlad ol' buddy....it's ok to admit error. If you did people would move on from this. But you can't admit your error. Your massive ego won't let you.

BTW....I see you're still committing that mortal sin.

It's still right there in front of you.

330 posted on 08/20/2019 6:07:10 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: vladimir998

You, my friend, do not have the truth... you translate and make it fit what you want it to... but you are not the carrier of God’s Word.

You want to argue with someone and you come on and insult at your heart’s content. I am too old to mess with a know it all... i’ve been there and back before you were born...

Go rest and get a breather and come back in a good mood.


331 posted on 08/20/2019 6:08:02 PM PDT by frnewsjunkie
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To: vladimir998

You ask and I answer, Yes, half of my chromosomes are from my Mother. Since you are flailing, trying to insinuate that half of Jesus’s chromosomes are from Mary, we now require that you prove this inference.


332 posted on 08/20/2019 6:08:50 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: vladimir998

“I wore a scapular for my own reasons.” LOL


333 posted on 08/20/2019 6:12:29 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: MHGinTN; vladimir998
Since you are flailing,

And poorly too I might add.

Image result for flailing

Kinda fading away.

334 posted on 08/20/2019 6:15:35 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone
I wonder if the whole purpose of the scapular, is just to make money? It certainly won’t save anyone from anything. I know my dad bought them for each of us. When I reached catholic high school, me, and all of my classmates, stopped wearing it, but I don’t recall why we stopped wearing it. I don’t think it’s any different from the Mormon’s magic underwear. 😁☝️
335 posted on 08/20/2019 6:17:02 PM PDT by Mark17 (Once saved, always saved. I am an Ephesians 2:8-9 kind of guy. It is a beautiful thing. Enjoy it)
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To: Mark17

Very possible. With false doctrine one never knows.


336 posted on 08/20/2019 6:18:25 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone; smvoice

smvoice nailed it, the effort is to promote the Catholic Mary to demigoddess status by assuming facts not in evidence. Catholicism does this in many cases, so traditions of men begin to have equality with The word of God. Smvoice also nailed it as blasphemy.


337 posted on 08/20/2019 6:18:50 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: ealgeone

Then why did Jesus standing there in the flesh say before Moses was I AM


338 posted on 08/20/2019 6:36:40 PM PDT by Mom MD
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To: MHGinTN; Mom MD

Actually, thinking about it, He must have had SOME of Mary’s genetic make up. God did promise David that he would always have a descendant to sit on his throne.

That said, I don’t think there’s any point in speculating about stuff that God did not outright tell us.


339 posted on 08/20/2019 6:55:08 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: metmom
Is the thread dying? 😁🤣😀👍
340 posted on 08/21/2019 2:31:18 AM PDT by Mark17 (Once saved, always saved. I am an Ephesians 2:8-9 kind of guy. It is a beautiful thing. Enjoy it)
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