Posted on 08/07/2019 3:20:08 PM PDT by ebb tide
Not at all.
GOD has no mother.
Jesus did.
The Holy Spirit is clear in Scripture in calling Mary *the mother of Jesus*.
John 2:1 On the third day there was a wedding at Cana in Galilee, and the mother of Jesus was there.
John 2:3 When the wine ran out, the mother of Jesus said to him, “They have no wine.”
Acts 1:14 All these with one accord were devoting themselves to prayer, together with the women and Mary the mother of Jesus, and his brothers.
Historical documents?
So what?
Show me from scripture.
I didn’t think you had anything.
So wearing the scapular saves people from hell.
Why did Jesus die then?
placemarker
Why should you care? You've already proclaimed you are assured of your own salvation.
Sounds hypocritical to me.
Do you know the difference between hope and faith?
Do you know ths sin of presumption?
One thing is certain, it is not the correct interpretation of scripture that saves.
Do you think all human souls go to heaven?
If not, what makes you so special?
25 Now there stood by the cross of Jesus his mother, and his mother’s sister, Mary the wife of Cleophas, and Mary Magdalene.
John 19:25 | KJV
Now look up the word for “sister.”
Furthermore, something not being in Scripture doesn’t make you any less wrong about what Scripture is actually saying.
Nope. That’s not what the promise says or means. I can’t help if you want to insist “thou shalt not kill” means you can’t defend yourself with deadly force, but you’d still be wrong.
Naw, you’re just ignorant. Who existed first, God or Mary the mother of Jesus? A deeper issue, do you believe Mary the Mother of Jesus could impart Spirit Life to the being she conceived in her womb?
The Hebrew reads Thou shall not cmurder.
LO, did you even read what is promised on the idol shown in https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/3770004/posts?page=619#619 ? Whirling dervishes got nothin’ on you tippy toppy.
I’m quite sure that you don’t know what the sin of presumption is. The Apostle defines it, and your definition is not the same as the Apostle’s in Romans 2. The Apostle’s definition of the sin of presumption is all about hypocrisy and condemning the sin in others that you yourself are committing.
Same way your definition of hope isn’t the same as the Apostle’s definition, because the Apostle defines hope as certainty.
I’ll take the definition of God through the pens of the Apostles over the false definitions, thanks.
I despise these 'Mary' threads...
Mary was recognized way back in Isaiah 7: 10Moreover the LORD spake again unto Ahaz, saying, 11Ask thee a sign of the LORD thy God; ask it either in the depth, or in the height above. 12But Ahaz said, I will not ask, neither will I tempt the LORD. 13And he said, Hear ye now, O house of David; Is it a small thing for you to weary men, but will ye weary my God also? 14Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel. 15Butter and honey shall he eat, that he may know to refuse the evil, and choose the good. 16For before the child shall know to refuse the evil, and choose the good, the land that thou abhorrest shall be forsaken of both her kings.
Mary was/is special...
Luk 1:28 And the angel came in unto her, and said, Hail, thou that art highly favoured, the Lord is with thee: blessed art thou among women. highly favoured G5487 χαριτόω charitoÅ khar-ee-to'-o From G5485; to grace, that is, indue with special honor: - make accepted, be highly favoured. It was nothing that Mary did...It's what God did...Highly favoured comes from G5485 which is grace...
I would 'disagree', obviously the Heavenly Father already knew He could trust 'her'.
Mary was the one who was born at the right place at the right time...God imbued her with the grace to be a great devotee of God and acceptable to be the mother of Jesus...And because God chose her, she was blessed because of the grace God gave her...
Given what we are told about Mary and her 'cousin' Elizabeth, mother of John the Baptist, it is evident that the Heavenly Father was in control. Mary was conceived by 'earthly parents' (a mom and dad had 'sex') to bring forth Mary. There was nothing 'immaculate' about Mary's conception, except it took place on the Heavenly Father's time.
G5485 grace charis khar'-ece From G5463; graciousness (as gratifying), of manner or act (abstract or concrete; literal, figurative or spiritual; especially the divine influence upon the heart, and its reflection in the life; including gratitude): - acceptable, benefit, favour, gift, grace (-ious), joy liberality, pleasure, thank (-s, -worthy).
Given what the word 'grace' means I have NO clue why it garners the focus of Mary.
Eph 1:2 Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ. Eph 1:3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ: Eph 1:4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love: Eph 1:5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will, Eph 1:6 To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved. Eph 1:7 In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace;
Want to know 'when' Mary was 'elected/chosen', "before the foundation" of the world... Might want to dig into what those words actually refer to ... Genesis 1:2 and the casting down/ overthrow of Lucifer... Those that stood against the devil proclaiming himself 'god' are the 'elect/chosen' - 'saints'... God already chose them... and they have had a 'role' to play in the fulfillment of 'the Will of God'.
Paul did not 'recognize' Mary as a venerated 'deity', in Hebrews 2:14
Hebrews 2:14-15 14Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil; 15And deliver them who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage.
This is the same highly favoured grace God gave to Mary...
Not one thing Peter penned goes to anyone but the Heavenly Father hearing prayers... in Christ's Holy Name. Some in their traditions have ground the 'rock' of Peter into mystical fairy dust.
And we also have this:
It is hard to find something you don’t want to find.
You dummy I have nothing to do with this belief, I have said
time and again that I don’t argue if Jesus is God in the flesh
or not because I don’t know.
But only that if jesus is God in the flesh Mary would have to
be his mother, just so simple. you
Just what in the world does All of that have any thing
to do with it?,absolutly nothing.
As I have also made clear I do not know if Jesus was litterally
God in the flesh or not but if he was then Mary is the
mother of God.
You can not have it both ways.
Well I'm trying to find out what you are reading into those scriptures...What does your church read into those scriptures??? Maybe I'll learn something...
But let's be clear here...Those and the rest of the scriptures are given to us in 6th grade English and comprehension...We can read what they say and they mean what they say...It's pretty clear to me that we here ALL know what they say and mean...It's just that some of us don't LIKE what they say...
What those scriptures say and mean to me is that the scriptures (the written words of God) were written so that we can know (by reading and believing those words of scripture) exactly what is required for our salvation...
So what do you get from reading those scriptures???
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