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Why Heretics Hate Mary and We Should Love Her More
One Peter Five ^ | August 5, 2019 | Timothy Flanders

Posted on 08/07/2019 3:20:08 PM PDT by ebb tide

Why Heretics Hate Mary and We Should Love Her More

Marian devotion is the cure for heresy and the healing of all heretics. We must turn to her for refuge from the heretical depravity now consuming the Church. Marian devotion is the destruction of error, the fount of humility, and a potent safeguard for orthodox faith.

Mary Is the Destroyer of All Heresies

In True Devotion to Mary, St. Louis de Montfort writes:

The most infallible and indubitable sign by which we may distinguish a heretic, a man of bad doctrine, a reprobate, from one of the predestinate, is that the heretic and the reprobate have nothing but contempt and indifference for our Blessed Lady, endeavoring by their words and examples to diminish the veneration and love of her. (30)

In the Tract for the Mass Salve Sancta Parens, the Church sings, “Rejoice, O Virgin Mary, thou alone hast destroyed all heresies.” From this, Pope St. Pius X invoked her as “Destroyer of Heresies” in Pascendi 58. And again, it was in the context of St. Dominic’s war against heresy that the Holy Rosary, Mary’s psalter, was revealed.

Thus, it is manifest that Our Lady holds a special place in the relationship of Holy Church with heresy and heretics. Why is this? It is because the root cause of heresy is not anger, lust, or sloth, but pride. A formal heretic pridefully and obstinately rejects the authority of the Church and the authority of the Fathers. His whole opinion hinges on an imaginary antiquarianism created by his pride. And it is against the sin of pride that Our Lady most perfectly shows her power. This is why St. Louis says in another place:

[Satan] fears her not only more than all Angels and men, but in some sense more than God Himself … because Satan, being proud, suffers infinitely more from being beaten and punished by a little and humble handmaid of God, and her humility humbles him more than the Divine power. (True Devotion, 52)

Demons and heretics fear her because she threatens to humble them. The latter impiously attack her under the pretense that they are safeguarding the honor due to God. In reality, they know that Mary will destroy their prideful opinions. “Humility is an abomination to the proud ” (Ecclus. 13:24).

How Mary Humbles the Proud

When the Holy Spirit exalted Mary by the mouth of St. Elizabeth, Mary said:

He hath shewed might in his arm: he hath scattered the proud in the conceit of their heart. He hath put down the mighty from their seat and hath exalted the humble. (Lk. 1:51)

Devotion to Mary brings humility to the soul. Just as St. John heard her voice and leaped for joy, and St. Elizabeth immediately humbled herself, saying “Who am I that the mother of my Lord should come to me?” (Lk. 1:43), we too know this humility when we exalt Mary.

Mary humbles us because God wills that Jesus Christ be manifested to the world through her. According to nature, any man is her equal. According to grace and merit, she is “more honorable than the cherubim, and beyond compare more glorious than the Seraphim” [1]. In Mary, our humility is truly tested because she is a human, not God.

Humility toward God is presumed by all, and heretics falsely think themselves humble because they say they submit to God. But their pride is revealed when they refuse to submit to man — both legitimate authority and the sayings of the wise. “The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that is wise hearkeneth unto counsels” (Prov. 12:15).

A humble man may even debase himself before wicked men, as our Lord did.  But heretics have no humility toward men. In reality, heretics are attempting to impose their private opinion on all authorities. They have no humility toward any human but are consumed in their own selves. As the history of Protestantism has shown, it is easy to feign humility toward God while exalting yourself over every man. This is the way of all the heretics.

One who is humble toward Mary will be humble toward authority. Mary especially checks the pride of heretics by proclaiming that they cannot have their own private, “personal Jesus,” since our Lord has forever bound Himself to His mother by His incarnation. In the same way that the Incarnation is the foundation of our redemption — without which there can be no Passion or Resurrection — the human person of Jesus Christ cannot exist without the person of Mary [2]. As I have written in another place, true union with Christ will result in love of Mary as our mother, who was also the first natural cause of His appearance to the world.

Marian Devotion is a test for orthodoxy

Since Marian Devotion is the fount of humility, it becomes a powerful test for orthodoxy. For example, when St. John Vianney’s lack of intelligence presented a barrier to his ordination, he was evaluated like this:

The vicar-general asked the superior of the seminary: ‘Is young Vianney pious? Is he devoted to the Blessed Virgin?’ The authorities were able to assure him fully upon these points. ‘Then,’ said the vicar-general, ‘I will receive him. Divine grace will do the rest.’ [3]

And so the Church ordained the future patron of parish priests. Sometimes it is as simple as asking if a man has Marian devotion. If a man is truly devoted to our Lady, he can be no heretic. St. Louis again:

“If you follow her,” says St. Bernard, “you cannot wander from the road.” Fear not, therefore, that a true child of Mary can be deceived by the evil one, or fall into any formal heresy. There where the guidance of Mary is, neither the evil spirit with his illusions, nor the heretics with their subtleties, can ever come — Ipsa tenente, non corruis. (True Devotion, 209) [4]

Thus, it is unsurprising that when we read through Building a Bridge by James Martin, S.J., a book purported to be about mercy and compassion, not a single page mentions the Mother of mercy and compassion. In fact, on page 130, he even erroneously asserts that at the Resurrection, Mary Magdalene was the first Christian, implicitly denying our Lady and the entire tradition of her Saturday memorial in which her sole faithfulness is commemorated. The examples of his warped or deficient Marian piety are only too easy to find [5].

But it is even more disturbing when we read how the Rhine group at Vatican II successfully suppressed the document on the Mother of God, relegating it, by a narrow vote, to the final section in Lumen Gentium (against the protests from Eastern Catholic bishops and others) [6]. When their efforts to suppress Marian devotion were opposed by Paul VI (to his credit), the time became known to them as “Black Week” [7]. Perhaps more alarming, Ratzinger himself admits that his Marian piety was weak in Last Testament and seems to imply the false dichotomy that Marian piety is not Christocentric [8]. Without succumbing to the sin of rash judgment, it is nevertheless suggestive that this lack of Marian piety correlates with an apparent hubris on the part of many Vatican II “reformers.”

Whatever the true state of these and other men with an apparent reluctance to love and honor their own mother, we can be certain that our Blessed Lady is a sure refuge from heresy. As Fr. Ripperger has stated, without a strong intellectual formation, everyone becomes a Modernist in our corrupt society. That is why we must cling to Our Lady for refuge from heretics and heresy in our time.

True devotion to Mary keeps us safe from the excesses of pride. Even more in our day, let us consider: she stood firm, though she witnessed the Passion and death of our Lord. We also must stand firm, even as we are witnessing the passion and death of the Church. Moreover, it seems clear from her frequent apparitions since the 19th century that Our Lord has purposed His mother for a special role in resolving this crisis. Let us pray our daily rosary and make the First Saturdays. Let us abide with Our Lady in the Passion of the Church and never lose hope for the Glorious Resurrection.


[1] Eastern Catholic Marian antiphon

[2] So too the mediation of the Sacraments — through another human — we receive our Lord.

[3] The Life of Saint John Vianney, The Curé of Ars, ch. 1

[4] It should be noted that Marian devotion is not an infallible test for orthodoxy, but merely a general rule against which there can be significant exceptions. Some Protestants, although material heretics, are in fact humble, and some Catholics are orthodox with little or no Marian piety. However, no man can be truly devoted to Our Lady and be a heretic. Moreover, formal heresy is defined as an error in the intellect and an obstinate will. It is particularly the latter from which Mary keeps us safe.

[5] I refuse to expose the reader to any further abuse of Our Lady from James Martin. Suffice it to say I have searched in vain for a substantial treatment or promotion of Marian devotion from Martin, and he admits in My Life with the Saints, p. 345ff., that his Marian devotion, which was shallow in his youth, was formed by the Jesuits as an imitation model, not the traditional, primarily mediatrix role. If his Marian devotion does go beyond sentimentality, let him publicly and explicitly disavow every heresy of which he is accused.

[6] See Rev. Ralph Wiltgen, The Rhine Flows into the Tiber (Augustine, 1979), 90ff.

[7] See Ibid., 234ff. The Rhine group was opposing Paul VI’s honoring of our Lady as “Mother of the Church” as well as his actions regarding collegiality, religious liberty, and ecumenism.

[8] See Benedict XVI, Last Testament, trans. Jacob Phillips (Bloomsbury, 2016), 70ff. As I have read more into Ratzinger, despite his obvious strengths, more of his theology has concerned me. This point was another red flag


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To: Freeborn
Faith is belief in the absence of proof.

"Proof" as in absolute proof, but not without evidential warrant. While the secular definition is often faith is belief in the absence of evidence, or despite it, that is simply not what is manifest in Scripture. Do i need to show you?

And Elijah took the child, and brought him down out of the chamber into the house, and delivered him unto his mother: and Elijah said, See, thy son liveth. And the woman said to Elijah, Now by this I know that thou art a man of God, and that the word of the Lord in thy mouth is truth. (1 Kings 17:23-24)

Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance [faith] unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead. (Acts 17:31)

And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world. (1 John 4:14)

And when he was disposed to pass into Achaia, the brethren wrote, exhorting the disciples to receive him: who, when he was come, helped them much which had believed through grace: For he mightily convinced the Jews, and that publickly, shewing by the scriptures that Jesus was Christ. (Acts 18:27-28)

For I will not dare to speak of any of those things which Christ hath not wrought by me, to make the Gentiles obedient, by word and deed, Through mighty signs and wonders, by the power of the Spirit of God; so that from Jerusalem, and round about unto Illyricum, I have fully preached the gospel of Christ. (Romans 15:18-19)

Yet, at some point one must hear and obey the light they have for more light to be salvific:

And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead. (Luke 16:31)

581 posted on 08/09/2019 7:30:27 PM PDT by daniel1212 ( Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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To: ealgeone
You guys treat Holy Writ like it was a contract.

Well...

DUH!!!


Old Contract and New Contract are the main divisions in My bible!

582 posted on 08/09/2019 7:30:52 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

My apologies.

I just have to wonder why you continually tell me what it says instead of asking why I don’t agree with your assertion.


583 posted on 08/09/2019 7:31:23 PM PDT by papertyger (Trump, A president so great, that Democrats who said they would leave America if he won, stayed!)
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To: HarleyD
The prayer posted in #1 is nothing more than a Satanic contrivance and "doctrine of demons" that denigrates the Holiness and intercessory of our Lord Jesus Christ. Is that considered "contempt"? It certainly can't be considered indifference.

Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter! (Isaiah 5:20)

584 posted on 08/09/2019 7:31:52 PM PDT by daniel1212 ( Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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To: papertyger
Unfortunately for you, what you think he wrote is not what he actually wrote.

Joh 20:31  But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name. 

1Jn_5:13  These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.

Alrighty then...Clue us in...What did John actually write in those verses???

585 posted on 08/09/2019 7:31:57 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: ealgeone
Hey elsie, got any artwork showing how RCs "don't care" how we practice our faith?

Sure do; but there is no one left on this thread that cares.

Any lurker with two or more brain cells to rub together has already abandoned the ship.

I'm outta here; too.

I've had enough of Nyah nyah - yer wrong for one day.

586 posted on 08/09/2019 7:34:34 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: MHGinTN

Yup, my statement was out of a lack of understanding, rather than sarcasm.


587 posted on 08/09/2019 7:34:42 PM PDT by papertyger (Trump, A president so great, that Democrats who said they would leave America if he won, stayed!)
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To: All
That said,. i have been waiting to install Windows 10 on a new (home built) PC , thanks and glory be to God, and want to do so tonite, so I should be back in a few hours. Or tomorrow AM, God willing. Carry on believers.
588 posted on 08/09/2019 7:36:15 PM PDT by daniel1212 ( Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
The Word says satan will be released for a time after the 1,000 years. There will be rebellion.

Isn’t it amazing, that Jesus will be physically on the earth, ruling with a rod of iron, and there could be millions, who see him and still don’t believe. But then again, he walked the earth before, and most people didn’t believe him. Why should it be any different, in the millennium? My opinion is, that all those who physically survive the Tribulation, will be gathered, and only true believers will be allowed to enter the kingdom. All unbelievers will be killed by God. No unbelievers will be allowed into the kingdom, and false religions will not be allowed on the earth. Then, live, mortal believers will start having sex again. (oh the horror of it all) 😁 It is some of the children of the believers, who won’t believe, and will rebel. That’s my opinion.

589 posted on 08/09/2019 7:39:01 PM PDT by Mark17 (Master Sgt, US Air Force, retired. Air traffic controller. Father of US Air Force 2nd Lieutenant)
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To: HarleyD; daniel1212
The prayer posted in #1 is nothing more than a Satanic contrivance and "doctrine of demons" that denigrates the Holiness and intercessory of our Lord Jesus Christ. Is that considered "contempt"?

Yes, your statement above is contempt of Our Lord's Mother and Our Lord, Himself.

Thanks for proving the article true.

590 posted on 08/09/2019 7:39:08 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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To: grey_whiskers
The problem with the wheat and the tares is that everybody thinks *their* denomination is the wheat and everyone else is the tares. *cough*.

No they don't...Christian denominations know their church buildings are filled with wheat AND tares...But we know it is only the wheat that are the Body of Christ...Difference is: Catholics think that every Catholic whether wheat or tare is a member of the Body of Christ, since the Catholic church is the body of Christ...

591 posted on 08/09/2019 7:40:14 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: Iscool
Alrighty then...Clue us in...What did John actually write in those verses???

Just what they say; why, are you going to tell me what they REALLY mean?

592 posted on 08/09/2019 7:41:42 PM PDT by papertyger (Trump, A president so great, that Democrats who said they would leave America if he won, stayed!)
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To: ebb tide

Or lying wonders of demons.... Discernment ebb. Not everything that appears Mira Lou’s is of God.


593 posted on 08/09/2019 7:43:19 PM PDT by Mom MD
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To: ebb tide
Everybody in Scripture, except for the Blessed Mother, Adam and Eve, had original sin.

Adam and Ever ARE the original sin...

594 posted on 08/09/2019 7:43:38 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: ebb tide

so you are on drugs!


595 posted on 08/09/2019 7:45:57 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: Iscool

Correction, I meant born/created with original sin.

Of course Adam and Eve sinned.


596 posted on 08/09/2019 7:47:16 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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To: Mom MD

Not everything that appears miraculous is of God should he....


597 posted on 08/09/2019 7:49:09 PM PDT by Mom MD
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To: papertyger
Even if your reading of the passage weren’t eisegetical, where are your other two witnesses?

Well c'mon...You said we are not reading what we are reading...Enlighten us then...

598 posted on 08/09/2019 7:54:54 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: papertyger
Just what they say; why, are you going to tell me what they REALLY mean?

Because they mean what they say...You claimed they don't say what I think they say...So what do they say and what do they mean??? I'd like to know...

599 posted on 08/09/2019 8:02:58 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: daniel1212

Correct me if I am wrong.

The Catholics believe that jesus was God in the the flesh so
therefore believe that Mary is the mother of God.

The Protestants believe Jesus was God in the flesh but deny that
Mary was the mother of God, talk about hypocrictical.

Or is it just stupid?.


600 posted on 08/09/2019 8:08:28 PM PDT by ravenwolf
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