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To: metmom
Is it true or not?

Why should you care? You've already proclaimed you are assured of your own salvation.

Sounds hypocritical to me.

Do you know the difference between hope and faith?

Do you know ths sin of presumption?

626 posted on 08/09/2019 8:59:28 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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To: ebb tide

I’m quite sure that you don’t know what the sin of presumption is. The Apostle defines it, and your definition is not the same as the Apostle’s in Romans 2. The Apostle’s definition of the sin of presumption is all about hypocrisy and condemning the sin in others that you yourself are committing.

Same way your definition of hope isn’t the same as the Apostle’s definition, because the Apostle defines hope as certainty.

I’ll take the definition of God through the pens of the Apostles over the false definitions, thanks.


634 posted on 08/09/2019 9:57:20 PM PDT by Luircin
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To: ebb tide
Why do I care?

Because of all the people who have been snookered by a lie who wear the thing thinking it will actually keep them from going to hell.

It's not hypocritical in the least and my assurance of salvation and the work Christ is doing in me is no reason for me to not care about the eternal destiny of others.

Do you know the difference between hope and faith?

Yes, faith is the assurance of things hoped for. IOW, knowing that we have them instead of hoping that maybe in the end, when it's too late to do anything about it, I'll find out when I die if I make it into heaven or not.

Only Catholicism would relabel faith as *presumption* and make a sin out of something that is not a sin.

660 posted on 08/10/2019 6:31:52 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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